Vista updater missing imporant updates?

starmanwarz · 2 Nov 2007 at 16:27

I noticed that there are some important updates for vista(such as stability and memory)which arent incuded in the updater.I just checked my update history and these 2 updates are not installed and not available for download.Is this normal?I randomly found a thread here mentioning the stability update as well as an update for ram(64bit systems can use 4Gb)and thats how I found out that I am missing important updates.So,how can I make these updates to be automatically downloaded via the updater?And if I cant do this(which is strange),where can I find them/learn about new updates etc?

EDIT:running vista Business x64

Fire Wizard · 2 Nov 2007 at 17:01

Hey starmanwarz, not all of the updates that are released by Microsoft will necessary be put onto Windows Update. Say for instance this one. This only applies to people that are using 3GB or more of memory, so its pretty worthless to people that only have 2GB of memory or less installed in their systems.

Now in my opinion, the two updates below should be put on Windows Update. If you haven't already got them, they are worth getting. Microsoft may decide at a later date to put these two updates on Windows Update.

Microsoft said:
KB941649 This update improves the compatibility, reliability, and stability of Windows Vista.

• It extends the battery life for mobile devices.
• It improves the stability of portable computers and of desktop computers that use an uninterruptable power supply (UPS).
• It improves the reliability of Windows Vista when you open the menu of a startup application.
• It improves the stability of wireless network services.
• It shortens the startup time of Windows Vista by using a better timing structure.
• It shortens the recovery time after Windows Vista experiences a period of inactivity.
• It shortens the recovery time when you try to exit the Photos screen saver.
• It improves the stability of Windows PowerShell.

This update also resolves the following issues in Windows Vista:

• A compatibility issue that affects some third-party antivirus software applications.
• A reliability issue that occurs when a Windows Vista-based computer uses certain network driver configurations.

Download for: 32-Bit / 64-Bit / More Information

Microsoft said:
KB941600 Cumulative update rollup for USB core components in Windows Vista:

Issues that are fixed in the update rollup
925528 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925528/) Stop errors occur on a Windows-based computer that has 2GB or more of RAM and is using an NVIDIA nForce USB controller
929734 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929734/) You may experience problems after you resume a Windows Vista-based computer from sleep or from hibernation
930568 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930568/) Error message when you try to put a Windows Vista-based computer to sleep or into hibernation: "STOP 0x000000FE BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER"
929478 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929478/) After you use the Safely Remove Hardware option to remove a built-in optical drive from a portable Windows Vista-based computer, you may be unable to reconnect the drive
930570 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930570/) Error message in the Usbhub.sys process when you wake a Windows Vista-based computer from sleep or from hibernation: "STOP 0x00000044"
928631 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928631/) A USB device may no longer work correctly after Windows Vista resumes from sleep or from hibernation
933433 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933433/) Recording quality is poor when you use a USB microphone on a Windows Vista-based computer that has 4 GB of RAM or more
933442 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933442/) A USB composite device does not work after you disable and then enable the device in Device Manager on a computer that is running Windows Vista
934633 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934633/) When you connect a USB multifunction printer device to a Windows Vista-based computer, a second instance of the printer object is created, and the first instance no longer works
934796 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934796/) Error message on a Windows Vista-based computer that is running a USB composite device: "STOP 0x000000FE"
933824 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933824/) The Safely Remove Hardware feature and the Windows Explorer "Eject" command do not work correctly with an Apple iPod that is connected to a Windows Vista-based computer
935782 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935782/) A USB device takes a long time to resume from "selective suspend" mode on a Windows Vista-based computer that uses UHCI USB controllers
935783 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935783/) When you resume a Windows Vista-based computer from sleep, you may experience unexpected behavior from a USB device

Download for: 32-Bit / 64-Bit / More Information

As for being able to manually put updates onto Windows Update, their is no way that i am aware of anyway of doing this. Im afraid you will have to go onto the Microsoft website and manually download them. You can visit this page to view all of the Vista updates that have been released.

starmanwarz · 2 Nov 2007 at 17:05

Great post once again Fire Wizard,thanks!It is strange that MS is not including such important updates in the updater though.

Tute · 2 Nov 2007 at 19:50

So if they should be put on Windows Update, why aren't they?

starmanwarz · 2 Nov 2007 at 22:17

Something of topic,my weather gadget is not working,anyone know why?

Fire Wizard · 4 Nov 2007 at 14:05

starmanwarz said:
Great post once again Fire Wizard,thanks!It is strange that MS is not including such important updates in the updater though.

Hey starmanwarz, when the very first Performance and Reliability packs were released if I remember correctly, it took Microsoft quite a while to put them on Windows Update. Now weather Microsoft will be putting these two other important updates onto Widows Update, is anyone’s guess.

Tute said:
So if they should be put on Windows Update, why aren't they?

Hey Tute, that’s a very good question.

starmanwarz said:
Something of topic,my weather gadget is not working,anyone know why?

Hey starmanwarz again

, could you expand on that a bit more please?

starmanwarz · 4 Nov 2007 at 15:19

I get a service not availble message on my weather gadget.And something else off topic,I have just ordered 2 more gigs of RAM,can someone link me to that x64 update for 4Gb of RAM?Should I install it first and after my RAM or the other way around?And will I have to return to my old RAM settings before adding the new sticks?

EternalMovement · 4 Nov 2007 at 15:33

I'm fairly sure this is the update you want starmanwarz.
It shouldn't make a difference if you install it before or after fitting your extra ram.

Your current ram settings should be fine.

Tute · 4 Nov 2007 at 15:54

Fire Wizard said:
Hey Tute, that’s a very good question.

Yup, is there a very good answer to go with it?

Fire Wizard · 4 Nov 2007 at 16:29

Hey starmanwarz, have you tried downloading a different clock to see if you get the exact same error message?

Regarding the update, you can download it here and more information about it can be found here. In my opinion it will be best to install the above update first, and then revert all of your memory settings back to stock settings and then add the extra 2GB to your system. (Note – You may have to up the voltage on the North Bridge controller a tad, so it will be able to take 4 sticks of RAM.)

Tute said:
Yup, is there a very good answer to go with it?

Hey Tute, haha

, I am not to sure myself why Microsoft haven't put these on Windows Update, maybe they are planning to.

starmanwarz · 5 Nov 2007 at 09:30

Its not the clock Im having problem with,its the weather gadget

Black Dragon · 5 Nov 2007 at 18:40

For some reason the RAM one wont install for me, says "this installation does not apply to your system" or something along those lines. Weird, as i use 4GB and Vista Ultimate 64.

starmanwarz · 5 Nov 2007 at 18:51

I installed it no probs here,and I didnt even have to go back to my old ram settings or increase NB voltage

Fire Wizard · 6 Nov 2007 at 16:50

starmanwarz said:
Its not the clock I’m having problem with, its the weather gadget

Hey starmanwarz, sorry I don’t know where I got the clock from.

Have you tried uninstalling the weather gadget and then re-installing it?

Black Dragon said:
For some reason the RAM one wont install for me, says "this installation does not apply to your system" or something along those lines. Weird, as i use 4GB and Vista Ultimate 64.

Hey Black Dragon, check to see if you haven't already got the update. That error message normally comes up when you already have the same update you are trying to install, already installed on your system. Is Windows Vista having problems recognising the 4GB of memory?

Black Dragon · 6 Nov 2007 at 22:36

Fire Wizard said:
Hey Black Dragon, check to see if you haven't already got the update. That error message comes up when you already have the same update you are trying to install, already installed on your system. Is Windows Vista having problems recognising the 4GB of memory?

Lol yeah, just checked and apparently it was installed on 15/06/07 which is around the last time i did a reinstall. I did download a beta MS package that had lots of compatability and performance fixes for Vista a few months back that was linked to on these forums. Perhaps that's how i got it