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Having trouble deciding between these 3 cards

robfosters

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Keep going back and forth. Just cant decide. When it comes to the 2GB card, I keep going back to the 2GB v 1GB for BF3 debate.

Any advice


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1 x MSI GeForce GTX 570 OC Twin FrozR III Power Edition 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £269.99
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 560Ti OC Power Edition "448 Edition" OC Twin FrozR III 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £239.99
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 560Ti OC Twin FrozR II 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £199.99
Total : £721.97 (includes shipping : £10.00).

 
1.3 gb VRAM is enough in BF3. The 570 will be better in general.

You could get a 2.5gb 570?!

Also, might be worth waiting for next gen if your current card is adequate for now.
 
Cleecooo,

I've always been a greenie fanboy. I know it's bad in this day and age, but I have always gone green from the days of the Geforce MX.

Besides, I play an awful lot of FSX as well, which is supposed to prefer a Nvidia.
 
The 560TI 448 edition.

The whole 2GB debate means xxxx all for res below 1920x1200 (unless you love to apply loads of AA), maybe in the future, but TBPH I can't see any more demanding games, especially as demanding as BF 3 coming out for a good while yet.

As you can see from these reviews (zero difference between the 6950 1GB and 2GB apart from a substantial difference in the min FPS when 4xAA is applied, but a single card below 570 levels isn't really designed to run BF 3 fully maxed out, need a 580 or equivalent or SLI/crossfire):

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...gtx-560-ti-448-roundup-evga-gigabyte-msi.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-ti-448-core-benchmark,3082.html

And reviews of the MSI card:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_560_Ti_448_Cores_Twin_Frozr_III/1.html

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/msi_gtx560_448_ti_power_edition_review,1.html
 
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robfosters said:
Cleecooo,

I've always been a greenie fanboy. I know it's bad in this day and age, but I have always gone green from the days of the Geforce MX.

Besides, I play an awful lot of FSX as well, which is supposed to prefer a Nvidia.
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Same here :p

I believe the 570 is still a little better than the 560 (newest one) so I would get a cheaper 570 and SLI later when the prices decrease with Kepler.

For me, BF3 uses around 1.5gb VRAM with my 570s with every setting at max so you'll do fine with 1.3.
 
robfosters said:
Thanks Nexus, I imagine these babies rock in SLI? May be able to get one now and another after xmas when there is a price shift :)
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No problem! :)

Yup, they sure do. Here is a bench comparing normal 560TI 1GB in SLI to a standard 580:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/441?vs=305&i=188.191.194.200.203.206.210.213.216.219.238.221

However a 560TI 448 performs pretty much the same as a 570, comparison between a standard 570 and a standard 560TI 448:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/499?vs=306&i=188.191.194.200.203.206.210.213.216.219.238.221

So, 570 SLI compared to a standard 580:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/307?vs=305&i=188.191.194.200.203.206.210.213.216.219.238.221

Cleeecooo said:
I believe the 570 is still a little better than the 560 (newest one) so I would get a cheaper 570 and SLI later when the prices decrease with Kepler.
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Well it depends on how you look at it;

- in terms of performance, yes, but not by much as you can see in reviews linked above and when overclocked the card performs better than a standard 570, of course when the 570 is overclocked, it will then pull ahead as well

However for temps, power consumption and noise levels the MSI 560TI 448 is better.

And cheaper as well, so overall I think the 560TI 448 is the better card IMO.
 
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They benchmark games that are popular at the time for the review of the cards, so all 5xx apart from the new 560TI 448 were released before BF 3, hence why none of the more demanding popular games like BF 3 or crysis 2 etc. are shown in any reviews of the 580, 570, 6970, 6950 etc. (unless they get updated, but I don't think I have seen any of the top review sites update their reviews for the likes of the 6970 etc. with the new games etc. :()

However here is a another review of the 560TI 448 edition, not just the MSI model but other models and they show SLI benchmarks:

Link to BF 3 benchmark, near the bottom is the SLI benchmark:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...cores-graphics-card-review-battlefield-3.html

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However you do see benchmarks of crysis 2 and BF 3 etc. (in the FPS bar/graph charts) for the 6970, 580, 570 etc. in the reviews of new cards i.e. the 560 TI 448.

EDIT 2:

Just thinking there, if you are diff going to be going SLI soonish...... then the MSI 560TI 2GB cards would be the better choice, as you can see 2x560TI have more than enough power for games at a res of 1080/1200 and the 2GB of VRAM for a single card would be better for SLI and of course the MSI 560TI 2GB is cheaper by a good bit at the minute and the temps, noise and power consumption are more or less the same as the 560TI 448 edition :)

So;

SLI - 2x MSI 560TI 2GB
Single card - 1x MSI 560TI 448
 
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