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VANTAGE DX10.1....Who's to Blame? Well a few People!

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Oliver Baltuch, a President of Futuremark Oj company has told Fudzilla that “As for your premise about DX10.1, we have been very clear that we would adhere to the specification that was agreed to by all the BDP Members: Noted clearly in our press release.”

He said that Ageia, AMD, Compal, Dell, Gateway, HP, Intel, Microsoft, NVIDIA, Sapphire Technology, Velocity Micro, Vivante Corp., Qimonda had to agree that they all want DirectX 10.1 inside of the new benchmark.

Oliver continues: “As part of creating both PCMark and 3DMark we have a transparency system that allows every change requested to the specification to be seen and commented on by all the members before a change is made and AMD (ATI) participated fully in this process as did all the other members each of whom have an equal say in every decision.”

German PC games hardware colleagues got an additional official statement from Dr. Jukka Makinen who stated “3DMark Vantage is a DirectX 10.0 benchmark, so DX10.1 features do not have an effect on the final score. DirectX 10.1 became available so late in the development process that we were not able to test and evaluate it in time for potential inclusion into this benchmark release.

As Nvidia acquired Ageie we believe that Ageia, Nvidia and Intel have voted against DirectX 10.1 and AMD, Sapphire and likely Microsoft itself have voted for DirectX 10.1. we wouldn’t dare to predict who Compal (ODM for most of notebooks you buy), Dell, Gateway, HP, Velocity Micro Vivante and Infenion's memory giant Qimonda have voted for.
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http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7106&Itemid=1

So NVidia IS indeed part to blame here but there are a few others too!
 
haha it'll be nvidias fault somehow:p

i said in that that thread about the possibility of 10.1 support being taking out for those reasons. but no it has to be something far more sinister lol.


james.miller said:
lol yes, i have to agree. you guys are complaining about two separate issues here. yes yes we all know the nvidia cards are all old tech blah blah whatever, but they wouldnt be old tech if ati were in the running at the time. That is ATI's fault, not nvidia's. so lots got off that old boat and talk about more interesting.


as far as the dx 10.1 issue goes.....it doesnt look good for nvidia does it. they gave the gf3's advantage in 01, they saved the gf8's and 9's from a disadvantage in 3dm vantage. at least thats what it looks like. i couldnt honestly say whether that was planned or not, or if futuremark genuinely didnt have time to create a dx 10.1 benchmark.

incidentally, on the subject, does anybody have a link for AC benchmarks, including dx10.1 tests and runs on nvidia cards?
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Dont care really.

Nvidia do full drivers every month & i will consider giving them another go, single card only as i have more freedom of chipset.
 
Final8y said:
Dont care really.

Nvidia do full drivers every month & i will consider giving them another go, single card only as i have more freedom of chipset.
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Not if you are on XP with a 8 series card they don't. We have'nt had a proper (not beta) WHQL release since December which is pathetic.
 
I think ATI deserve a break :(. Newer technology that will give us more efficient AA in our gaming is held back because Nvidia the company that's been in the lead for a year and a half in the high end are not ready to move up to DX10.1 yet :(.

I want Nvidia to get DX10.1 on their cards ASAP and allow ATI to continue using it. Nvidia are just plain bullying and have the muscle (money) to do so.

I want to see more of DX10.1 now. I don't want to have to wait. If ATI have it then roll on with DX10.1 being added into games and let the benchmarks bonanza begin :) I think many of you want the same. I want to see DX10.1 regardless of who shows it. A lot of people say the R600 slowed down the market but when ATI try to speed things up the it's Nvidia that's doing the slowing now.
 
Not that supprising really, the only ones likely to vote for DX10.1 was Microsoft, AMD and affiliates, for obvious reasons. Would be interesting to see what all other members voted for exactly.
 
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