2600 v 2600k

Hutch-Sco · 10 Jun 2011 at 20:55

Surveyor said:
I assume you'll be buying your mate a new CPU at some point then:

Assume you don't know what 'could' means :rolleyes:

Why would i buy him a cpu when it was him who wanted it overclocked, and what the **** has it to do with you anyway.

Surveyor · 10 Jun 2011 at 21:02

Hutch-Sco said:
Assume you don't know what 'could' means

Why would i buy him a cpu when it was him who wanted it overclocked, and what the **** has it to do with you anyway.

You meet such friendly people on this forum.

I look forward to the "my mate's CPU is dead" thread.

Hutch-Sco · 10 Jun 2011 at 21:11

Or surveyor 'thinks' thread, you thought wrong, No personal attacks!

roachyuk · 10 Jun 2011 at 21:15

should get this thread closed now ive got my info and stops getting idiots giving abuse...surveyor is a respectable member of these forums and doesnt need abuse of you Hutch....so close thread please mods thanks.

Hutch-Sco · 10 Jun 2011 at 21:30

Should keep his smart arsed comments to himself then, couldnt handle it after he was proven wrong.....

Phenomenologica · 10 Jun 2011 at 21:38

Surveyor was informing you of the fact you've done something inadvisable. Whether or not you take his advice on board is your choice, however most people on the forum are mature enough to say thank you and be polite about it even if they don't intend to follow up on it. :rolleyes:

Also, I assume you aren't particularly into the sciences, as you're rather grossly misusing the word 'proven'.

Hutch-Sco · 10 Jun 2011 at 22:18

He said you couldnt overclock a 2600, when really you can.

Try reading all the posts again before you go brown nosing....

Evoss · 10 Jun 2011 at 22:21

Get the K for £20 more.

Sean_UK · 10 Jun 2011 at 22:51

Hutch-Sco said:
The 2600 turbos to 3.8ghz and if you up the BCLK it will hit 4.4 no problem, i know this as ive done it to my mates....

38x multi with 116 BCLK for 4.4GHz, as said already cant expect that chip to last! :eek:

Or has the whole 'over 100 BCLK will slowly cause CPU damage' been a myth all along? :confused:

Surveyor · 10 Jun 2011 at 22:59

Hutch-Sco said:
He said you couldnt overclock a 2600, when really you can.

Only by adopting methods which are not recommended.

However, due to the knock-on effect of BCLK overclocking - remember, it increases the speed of more than just the CPU core - it's very easy to run into system instability and this method of performance boosting is not recommended.

In the spirit of integration, Intel made one more change this round: the 6-series chipsets integrate the clock generator. What once was a component on the motherboard, the PLL is now on the 6-series chipset die. The integrated PLL feeds a source clock to everything from the SATA and PCIe controllers to the SNB CPU itself. With many components driven off of this one clock, Intel has locked it down pretty tight.

Base Clock (BCLK) - this refers to the clock of the Sandy Bridge platform, which is 100MHz. Previous-generation platforms allowed for the BCLK to be raised quite easily, providing another way to increase overall system speed. However, with Sandy Bridge it's a little trickier as Intel's new architecture amalgamates a memory controller and GPU onto the same piece of silicon as the CPU. As a consequence, raising the BCLK on a Sandy Bridge platform will increase the speed of various components and quickly introduce the risk of instability. Overclocking by BCLK is therefore not recommended.

Phenomenologica · 10 Jun 2011 at 23:08

Hutch-Sco said:
He said you couldnt overclock a 2600, when really you can.

Try reading all the posts again before you go brown nosing....

I said inadvisable, not impossible. As did he. I'm not the one who isn't reading the posts properly, I am afraid.

nightrider1470 · 10 Jun 2011 at 23:10

Cool thank

Hutch-Sco · 10 Jun 2011 at 23:43

His pc has ran stable for 3 months, i couldnt care less how long it lasts either its his pc.

Your debating recomendations when the real argument was whether it could be overclocked, now shut up and admit defeat.

And the BCLK is between 106-107 ............

We'll soon see how long it lasts ladys.

Hutch-Sco · 10 Jun 2011 at 23:44

Surveyor said:
The 2600K can be overclocked when used with a P67 or Z68 motherboard.

The plain 2600 can't be overclocked.

Are you sure you can read :confused:

ross_rs · 10 Jun 2011 at 23:55

Hutch-Sco said:
Are you sure you can read

No personal attacks!

madindehead · 10 Jun 2011 at 23:56

I think someone needs a little holiday...

As for the CPU, I would take the K version

Surveyor · 11 Jun 2011 at 00:01

Hutch-Sco said:
The 2600 turbos to 3.8ghz and if you up the BCLK it will hit 4.4 no problem, i know this as ive done it to my mates....

Hutch-Sco said:
And the BCLK is between 106-107 ............

Then that wouldn't be a 4.4GHz overclock.

38 x 106 = 4.028GHz

38 x 107 = 4.066GHz

38 x 116 is 4.4GHz

Hutch-Sco · 11 Jun 2011 at 00:05

Who mentioned 38 multi, its hits 41.

Regardless of the speed its at it still overclocks.

Ross away and hijack another thread you No personal attacks!

Surveyor · 11 Jun 2011 at 00:15

Hutch-Sco said:
Who mentioned 38 multi, its hits 41.

Ross away and hijack another thread you knobjockey.

You did.

Hutch-Sco said:
The 2600 turbos to 3.8ghz and if you up the BCLK it will hit 4.4 no problem, i know this as ive done it to my mates....

3.8GHz is 38 x 100.

cmndr_andi · 11 Jun 2011 at 00:17

Yea, with the i7 2600 the chip can only be overclocked to 3.8GHz. It can turbo past this, up to 4.1GHz, but this is with only one loaded core. For the sake of our comparison we usually disregard turbo as not "real overclocking" so the maximum it will hit is 3.8GHz (3.9 with all cores loaded and turbo).

You could get an extra ~7% by increasing the BCLK, but taking into account the risk with such a small gain (maximum clockspeed 4.066GHz) I don't judge it to be worthwhile.

4.4GHz may be achievable for this overclock with turbo mode (1 core) but I certainly wouldn't say you could overclock an i7 2600 to 4.4GHz. Instead, 3.8GHz is as far as you can/should take that chip IMHO. If you want to overclock so much that you are raising the BCLK then I would suggest just selling the 2600 and picking up a 2600K for a small overall outlay (then overclock just with the unlocked mutli, BCLK at 100MHz).