People's experiences with Richer Sounds?

Yes richer sounds are very poor and I would not buy from them after very poor service.

Basically they are fine and very nice as long as you simply buy a product...

If it needs to be returned or exchanged things go downhill very fast in my expereince.

Probably the people who say they are good have never actually tried to return anything etc.
 
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Seems to me like Ethan is the cause of a lot of his own problems
For buying things that I have not been able to listen to, yes. The problem being that they have not let me listen to anything. I have found the experience akin to walking in to Kwik fit.

Basically they are fine and very nice as long as you simply buy a product...

If it needs to be returned or exchanged things go downhill very fast in my expereince
 
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Never had any issues with the bournemouth store great bunch of lads and have always sorted any problems out that ive had. Shame youve got issues with them dont let one store ruin it for the rest though
 
Shame... Big fan of RS here. Bought plenty over the years and had warranty replacements, fixed items out of warranty and lent amps whilst mines being fixed.

My store is London City and they've been fantastic. Always get repeat business from me... But I suppose there will unfortunately be the odd customer let down.
 
Richersounds has really surprised me over the years, if I'm buying new, I'll tend to go there.

The fact that they tend to be quite competitive on price is very surprising, they often have stuff cheaper than some of the main online stores, which is generally unheard of for a chain store when compared to online prices.
 
Ethan, the deal with shops is that if you don't like the service you are getting that you can shop elsewhere.

So, as I said, it was your choice to go ahead and buy. You could have walked out and gone to a competitor. My guess is that you overruled your heart and went with your wallet. It felt wrong at the time, but you still went with price over service.

The rest of you can flame me if you want. I'm just telling it like I see it based on Ethan's previous posts. It's clear to me that he hasn't ever settled on gear that's actually right for his needs.

In the last 3 months he has flitted between the Sony STRDN 1030 and Onkyo TXNR616 and Cambridge Azur 650r and Pioneer VSX527 and Sony STR-DH820.... pauses for breath... and is now considering a Yamaha RA-X1020. Some of the above have been bought, tried and returned for various reasons. To start off with a £160 Pioneer and now be looking at a £1000 Yamaha screams "confused buyer" to me. It could be argued that a good salesman would do a consultative sell to establish needs and budget before moving on to a comprehensive dem to confirm the appropriate products have been short-listed. The problems with this though are multi-fold. Some of the main ones are:
  • Doing this for an individual customer takes a lot of time and resources, and that has to be paid for from profit. A retailer can't afford to do this and sell at some of the lowest prices in the market. The maths doesn't add up.
  • It's speculative. Even after spending all this time there's no guarantee of a sale. This is a big problem in a competitive market when a salesman is expected to hit revenue targets.
  • Customers are sometimes not truly honest with themselves. Sticking rigidly to some arbitrary budget when it's clear that more needs to be spent to get the desired quality is never going to be a recipe for success.

Ethan also mentioned in this thread about using DSR to return goods he had tried at home. As I pointed out, that's not something that DSR provides. So is it any wonder that restocking fees were mentioned.

So this brings us back to the main point which is choosing an appropriate retailer. Expecting a consultative sell and 2-3 hours in a dem room is just unrealistic from any high volume low margin retailer. I really do hope you get sorted Ethan. I think though that you need to go visit a proper AV retailer and recognise that their service has a real tangible value. Good luck.
 
probably better than my way, i had a yamaha basic av receiver and then just stuck with what i know and got a better one. Never ever had a demo but then i didnt feel i would ever be able to replicate the sound at home anyway

i have to say i would feel a bit rude doint this much backwards and forwards trialing
 
Ethan, the deal with shops is that if you don't like the service you are getting that you can shop elsewhere.

So, as I said, it was your choice to go ahead and buy. You could have walked out and gone to a competitor. My guess is that you overruled your heart and went with your wallet. It felt wrong at the time, but you still went with price over service.

The rest of you can flame me if you want. I'm just telling it like I see it based on Ethan's previous posts. It's clear to me that he hasn't ever settled on gear that's actually right for his needs.

In the last 3 months he has flitted between the Sony STRDN 1030 and Onkyo TXNR616 and Cambridge Azur 650r and Pioneer VSX527 and Sony STR-DH820.... pauses for breath... and is now considering a Yamaha RA-X1020. Some of the above have been bought, tried and returned for various reasons. To start off with a £160 Pioneer and now be looking at a £1000 Yamaha screams "confused buyer" to me. It could be argued that a good salesman would do a consultative sell to establish needs and budget before moving on to a comprehensive dem to confirm the appropriate products have been short-listed. The problems with this though are multi-fold. Some of the main ones are:
  • Doing this for an individual customer takes a lot of time and resources, and that has to be paid for from profit. A retailer can't afford to do this and sell at some of the lowest prices in the market. The maths doesn't add up.
  • It's speculative. Even after spending all this time there's no guarantee of a sale. This is a big problem in a competitive market when a salesman is expected to hit revenue targets.
  • Customers are sometimes not truly honest with themselves. Sticking rigidly to some arbitrary budget when it's clear that more needs to be spent to get the desired quality is never going to be a recipe for success.

Ethan also mentioned in this thread about using DSR to return goods he had tried at home. As I pointed out, that's not something that DSR provides. So is it any wonder that restocking fees were mentioned.

So this brings us back to the main point which is choosing an appropriate retailer. Expecting a consultative sell and 2-3 hours in a dem room is just unrealistic from any high volume low margin retailer. I really do hope you get sorted Ethan. I think though that you need to go visit a proper AV retailer and recognise that their service has a real tangible value. Good luck.

Incidently I do agree with much of what you say. I walked in to the shop not knowing anything about home surround with only the vaguest of ideas of what I wanted: I wanted something that sounded good for movies and music. it's just that it would have been nice to have received a bit more support regarding those buying choices (which I feel I didn't get). To be fair though two of the items I purchased had issues, the Dac was nearly the right thing and exchanged for a DacMagic Plus: which I am happy with and the DSR comment wasn't really applicable because I was given 14 days to return regardless of ther being anything up with the item as long as it was returned in the condition it was sent. I think "ever settled" is a bit too strong a term to use though :)

I think though that you need to go visit a proper AV retailer and recognise that their service has a real tangible value.
I think so too. Thank you.
 
Again as I said and will repeat again...

They are very freindly and nice there and you will have a good experience...

Until you try and return something which is faulty or unwanted....

Things then get unpleasant very fast...
 
I recently dealt with Richer Sounds when purchasing my Yamaha 673 and QA 2000i's with 2020 fronts. I was disappointed that after agreeing a price the manager of the Chester store then decided he couldn't sell me it after all at agreed price. disgusting.

I ended up getting a better deal from Creative Audio. The guys at Creative Audio are brilliant and provided 5 star service with free next day delivery. They even provided a free guide they had made themselves about setting up the amp and what settings to use to get me started. I would happily deal with Creative Audio again and will consider them first in all my future AV purchases.
 
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Took my subwoofer in to be repaired last year (Watford). They rang me to say that they couldn't find the fault but were replacing the whole insides of it anyway. Due to Harman Kardon taking ages to send the part out (still dont have the sub back yet), they have lent me a sub so I don't suffer which I think is great service. Everything i've bought from them has been nice and easy.
 
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I would have been disappointed if they didn't have what I wanted in stock. I was disgusted that the manager would agree a price with me, then when going to pay changed his mind.

It worked out well for me in the end though thanks to Creative Audio.

Don't get me wrong, I like RS and have happily bought from their Liverpool store in the past, but there are better stores out there.
 
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