£2000 PC Build for 4K Video Editing

joeyjojo said:
The W7000 appears on the above support list. It's really hard to compare consumer and professional cards, but the W7000 is around AMD 7950/7970 performance in games. If this translates to Premiere then the 780 will be a little bit faster.

Definitely worth looking at the Xeons. As far as I know, the GPU only does filters, so how much you should spend on CPU/GPU depends on how many filters you're using. If you're mostly chopping and arranging, then rendering, go for more CPU power and less GPU power (and fast I/O).
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Considering the W7000 will perform the same, if not worse than the 780ti for GPU rendering uses i see no reason not to get the 780ti, as that has a better re-sale value and massive gaming abilities.

As a previous post of mine suggests, it is supported (as such)

As for the Xeon, As i can see, in the OP's price range the only Xeon he can get is the E5-2620v2. This is a stripped back 4930k. Less money yes, but no additional featues and a lower core speed.

The other issue with it is its memory support, it will only support upto 1600mhz RAM. This shouldn't be a major down-side it just seems a waste considering he can afford more.. (4930k + 2400mhz RAM 32GB).

The only excuse fopr sacrificing GPU performance is to add a 8-core Xeon to the Rig. Which seems far-fetched for his budget.
 
Been doing some reading around this - I'd be emulating the new mac pro for 4K editing, check out the video at the end...

http://www.fcp.co/final-cut-pro/art...th-apple-s-new-mac-pro-and-final-cut-pro-10-1

4K RAW video, 18 effects, rendering in real time :eek: (albeit with "best performance" selected - "best quality" would require a specialised card)

There's no way you'll get that much performance for £2K, but you can see how much CPU:GPU:memory:IO performance they have and shoot for something similar. They've got:

8 core Xeon E5 at 3 GHz
64 GB memory
2x FirePro D700 (each a slightly underclocked W9000)
1 TB PCIe flash storage (nearly 1 GB/s read/write)

So really Doomedspeed's spec is on the right lines - 25% less CPU power and 37.5% less GPU power, but WAY cheaper.

The only thing missing is the I/O performance. For the budget it doesn't look like M.2 will be possible, but the Samsung EVO gets about half way there. If there's a way to sneak the 840 EVO 1 TB into the spec it would be well balanced I think.
 
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Thanks for all the replies :)

I should have mentioned I do not need any magnetic drives.

Still undecided:-

PSU

Looking for recommendation for Corsair modular units

GPU

EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB SC ACX Superclock is on my list as it is listed as compatible with the Adobe software.

Lastly what extra fans and additional cabling would I require?

Thanks again.
 
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ramdrive said:
I should have mentioned I do not need any magnetic drives.

OK, I have decided on the following items:-

Intel 4930K CPU
Asus Rampage IV GENE Intel X79 Motherboard
Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA
Corsair Obsidian 350D Windowed Micro ATX Case
Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
Kingston HyperX Beast (4 X 8GB) 32GB .
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Some Great choices. Good start. :)

ramdrive said:
Still undecided:-

PSU

Looking for recommendation for Corsair modular units
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Why corsair inparticular?

I don't rate their units as they are a little hit/miss.

A suggestion is dependant on what/if your upgrade plans are. If you were staying single GPU, 650W would be fine, with a fair bit of headroom.

YOUR BASKET
1 x SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 650W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £79.99
Total : £89.59 (includes shipping : £8.00).



This Superflower unit is amazing. Modular and gold rated, with active fan control too. More than enough for the rig as it stands.

If you wanted to add another GPU (780ti SLI for exampple) you'd need a 850w/1000w PSU.

ramdrive said:
GPU

EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB SC ACX Superclock is on my list as it is listed as compatible with the Adobe software.
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I think it'd be a massive shame not to get the 780ti. As my previous posted quoted, any card which has CUDA accelreation can be used with APCC, even though its not on the 'support list'. I don't see how the support list is helpful, for NVIDIA cards.

ramdrive said:
Lastly what extra fans and additional cabling would I require?
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You'll get all the cables you need, just depends if you want to buy colours ecxtension cables to make the rig look really pretty or not.
 
Great thread with lots of useful stuff that I needed to know. Is it not worth waiting for the new chips just in case there is a price drop in the 4930k?
 
Jeffries7 said:
Great thread with lots of useful stuff that I needed to know. Is it not worth waiting for the new chips just in case there is a price drop in the 4930k?
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Thanks, this thread has had a good discussion hasn't it? :).

No point in waiting the prices won't drop, if atall only by £10-£20. if you want it cheaper you're better off going secondhand.
 
Doomedspeed said:
Thanks, this thread has had a good discussion hasn't it? :).

No point in waiting the prices won't drop, if atall only by £10-£20. if you want it cheaper you're better off going secondhand.
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It has, as most people see video editing and immediately start throwing out tri/quad-sli rigs and what not.

A valid point, I am tempted to wait for Haswell-E but I worry for DDR4 prices.
 
Doomedspeed said:
I think it'd be a massive shame not to get the 780ti. As my previous posted quoted, any card which has CUDA accelreation can be used with APCC, even though its not on the 'support list'. I don't see how the support list is helpful, for NVIDIA cards.
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He seems to be right OP, as linked earlier. The Ti has about 25% more power than the plain version (although it also costs about 33% more money!).

Doomed - I'm wondering if a cheaper motherboard would make sense here, with the money saved put towards a larger SSD/M2 drive? The GENE is very expensive.
 
joeyjojo said:
He seems to be right OP, as linked earlier. The Ti has about 25% more power than the plain version (although it also costs about 33% more money!).

Doomed - I'm wondering if a cheaper motherboard would make sense here, with the money saved put towards a larger SSD/M2 drive? The GENE is very expensive.
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That is the only mATX 2011 board
 
Shivy011 said:
That is the only mATX 2011 board
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Exactly, the only way you could save money is to go ATX,

This is an example:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Inno3D GeForce GTX 780Ti 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (N78T-1DDN-L5HS) £479.99
1 x Intel 4930K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail (BX80633I74930K) £425.99
1 x MSI X79A-GD45 Plus (8D) Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £139.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Beast 16GB (4x4GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Quad Channel Kit (KHX24C11T3K4/16X) £139.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £88
1 x SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 650W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £79.99
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
Total : £1,438.90 (includes shipping : £12.50).



Much cheaper. :)
 
Another factor to consider is that I may run 10hr+ renders overnight, would the recommended systems be able to cope with that? In essence the systems will be in use 24/7.

My thinking is not to overclock as this will increase stress on the system for only a marginal gain in rendering speed.

As my business grows I will upgrade the system, but as with any new business I am constrained by a small start up budget. :(
 
Ramdrive - everything quoted in this thread is top quality - no problem running 24/7/365. Not overclocking is a good idea, you just want to plug it in and have it work, not be fiddling about.

I like what you've got there DS. You can get the full 32 G memory, 1 TB SSD, and a beefier PSU (that will cope with two 780 Ti's in the future) for £2k.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Inno3D GeForce GTX 780Ti 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (N78T-1DDN-L5HS) £479.99
1 x Intel 4930K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail (BX80633I74930K) £425.99
1 x Samsung 1TB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE1T0BW) **£50 CASHBACK** £399.95
1 x Kingston HyperX Beast 32GB (4x8GB) PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Quad Channel Kit (KHX16C9T3K4/32X) £239.99
1 x Seasonic X-Series 850w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £155.99
1 x MSI X79A-GD45 Plus (8D) Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £139.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £88.00
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
Total : £2,014.84 (includes shipping : £12.50).



Only 3 days left to get the £50 cashback! OP the choice of case is up to you, but I think the money saved with ATX is probably worth it.

Edit: may also want a case fan or two if not included. Edit2: the Ronin includes 2 so no problem there.
 
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Nice idea Above, only a few issue, with the 4930k you can use memory over 1600mhz, this may speed up rendering/editing times. Well worth it if its supported.

And the SSD, while its all good having a 1TB SSD, its the speed you want. So the best way to get this (without opting for a PCI SSD) is to go RAID0, so thats what i propose.

You may notice going ATX give you better hardware options too. I know its 10% overbudget but this would be incredible.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Xeon E5-2640v2 2.00GHz 8-Core with Hyperthreading & Turbo (Socket 2011) - Retail £749.99
1 x Inno3D GeForce GTX 780Ti 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (N78T-1DDN-L5HS) £479.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Beast 32GB (4x8GB) PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Quad Channel Kit (KHX16C9T3K4/32X) £239.99
1 x MSI X79A-GD45 Plus (8D) Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £139.99
1 x NZXT Hale Power 90+ 1000W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £139.99
2 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £114.98 (£229.96)
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
1 x Prolimatech Black Megahalems CPU Cooler £52.99
1 x Alpenföhn 120mm Wing Boost Plus PWM Fan - Black & White £12.95
Total : £2,130.80 (includes shipping : £12.50).

 
I think he means Z97, and the 4770k will work but i don't think its the way to go, get the 4770k replacement (possibly name the 4790k). It may be £20-£30 more overall but well worth it.

Im going to be honest if you are really wanting X99, just wait for it. The X99 chipset is rumoured to be the first to support DDR4 RAm too, i don't know what this means for backwards compatibility but it may leave you having to sell that too.

the Haswell-E 8-core will probably be close to £900, just so you know. I think thats pretty horrendous, especially if you don't need it.
 
If it was a home system I would just wait for X99 but I need the computer to start my business. At present I am using a slow i5 dell XPS15 laptop!

Time is money....
 
I have decided to get an air cooler as I will not be overclocking and want a quite system.

What air coolers would you recommend for this case? I do not want some massive lump as I think that would be overkill.

Thanks!
 
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