ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.
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ISIL/ISIS/Levant always encompassed Syria. I'm not sure what your point is.
IIRC Takfiri is regarding apostasy, and nothing to do with the geographical areas the others refer to .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-35309195
Don't worry, nothing to see here, just a couple of bad apples, move along
Don't worry, nothing to see here, just a couple of bad apples, move along
All the west's fault again though, nothing to do with those poor terrorists.
Thank you. If this was the collective mentality it would have a considerable effect on the frequency of, and motivation behind, terrorist attacks. Unfortunately the media is accelerating everyone's demise to the point of no return with their frankly diabolical methods of broadcasting terror. Whether this is utter carelessness or actually a sinister motive is unknown to me, but sufficed to say you need to employ someone heavily versed in media psychology when you're reporting "terror" so as to not actually end up actually "terrorising" everyone. This is either being done very masterfully, or not being done at all, either of which is the precise reason this mess is simply getting bigger and bigger.
Every time the media reports terror, terrorists win. It's as simple as that, don't believe me? then try to figure out what "terror" defines. It is the motorway of it, it is the physical mechanism that carries terrorism and allows terrorists to complete their goal which is to terrorise people.
There was a time when "Terrorism" wasn't always in people's heads, a time when no one could care less about some guys who blew themselves up in Indonesia. A time when no one cared about wars in other countries. Perhaps this time when no one cared less about someone yelling "allahu akbar" was before 9/11, probably. But what I do know is that 9/11 has set the stage for every future terrorist event ever, the stage that tells all terrorists that we get terrorised really easy. Even a small stabbing somewhere while shouting Allahu akbar and we feel the terror. And that Sky News is ready and waiting for your attacks so they can make a bit of money too.
9/11 was big, and therefore the reaction to 9/11 was the pivotal moment which would shape the future of humanity and the definition of "Terror", unfortunately there wasn't much thought and he reacted with a "War on Terror"
.Not to mention the utterly ridiculous things they've created to keep people paranoid about terrorism like neurolinguistically instilling the fear of "Jihadi Johns" roaming our neighbourhoods as well as "Jihadi Universities" which they weren't supposed to publicise but they publicised anyway.
I could keep going on for ages but yeah.
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So your solution to the global jihad is just to pretend that it doesn't happen?
No, there is no solution, now. Like I said we've passed the point of no return. The solution was the inevitable dying down of religion which would have been an inevitability in time due to the ever increasing availability of knowledge and the ever decreasing ability to properly indoctrinate a child, not having a knee jerk reaction and killing people's fathers in wars on terror.
Whether we do something or not we're ****ed, and if we do "do" something now it simply accelerates demise.
So the question is what can you do other than pretend it doesn't happen?
Also, 'pretending' something doesn't happen is different to 'not knowing' something happened. Ignorance is bliss believe me.
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You don't get sarcasm don't you?
he needs to ride the thread. Or even read 
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You don't get sarcasm don't you?
Don't flatter yourself, I wasn't actually thanking you.
You're wasting your time trying to reason with these 3.No, there is no solution, now. Like I said we've passed the point of no return. The solution was the inevitable dying down of religion which would have been an inevitability in time due to the ever increasing availability of knowledge and the ever decreasing ability to properly indoctrinate a child, not having a knee jerk reaction and killing people's fathers in wars on terror.
Whether we do something or not we're ****ed, and if we do "do" something now it simply accelerates demise.
So the question is what can you do other than pretend it doesn't happen?
Also, 'pretending' something doesn't happen is different to 'not knowing' something happened. Ignorance is bliss believe me.
Don't quote me then
What, you missed his sarcasm?
What? So unless I'm actually thanking you I'm not allowed to quote you? And I'm not allowed to thank you either because your post was sarcasm? You're really up yourself aint ya buddy. Like I said stop flattering yourself, It's apparent your logic is all over the place.Don't quote me then
Your post was a perfect example of the mentality I was attempting to describe so I quoted it and I even explained why I quoted it. So what if the post itself was in jest??? lol seriously.
Some people have the comprehension and debating levels of an amoeba, I should have known it's futile trying to explain the psychosocial effects of media and terrorism to some guys who get excited when they use sarcasm.
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No, there is no solution, now. Like I said we've passed the point of no return. The solution was the inevitable dying down of religion which would have been an inevitability in time due to the ever increasing availability of knowledge and the ever decreasing ability to properly indoctrinate a child, not having a knee jerk reaction and killing people's fathers in wars on terror.
Whether we do something or not we're ****ed, and if we do "do" something now it simply accelerates demise.
So the question is what can you do other than pretend it doesn't happen?
Also, 'pretending' something doesn't happen is different to 'not knowing' something happened. Ignorance is bliss believe me.
I dunno how you can say there are no solutions, we haven't really tried anything apart from the failed strategies of pandering to the terrorists and warning the far right not to retaliate.
We haven't tried anything other than invading Afghanistan and Iraq you mean? Killing Bin Laden? Military campaigns against the Taliban?
How are we pandering to terrorists?
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Not to mention the last 18months of bombing ISIS in Iraq, the subsequent expansion of that into Syria and the use of drone strikes.
Unless of course Scorza has now conflated things so much that Refugee/Immigrant = Terrorist....
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Manoz, how much do these actors get to stay quiet?
I could perhaps do a couple of jobs a year and not have to work.
I could perhaps do a couple of jobs a year and not have to work.
Must have spent quite a bit on actors in Jakarta given that there are multiple camera angles of one actor very definitely blowing himself up with loads and loads of other actors in frame filming it on their mobile phones, etc. many of which have been uploaded online.
He knows about that, I'm sure he's just "pretending" those aren't happening.
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Well things like prosecuting British soldiers, having the Shadow Chancellor share a stage with jihadi-front charities like Cage, permitting the continued presence of jihadi organisations on British campuses, organisations refusing to condemn the Islamic State, giving a platform to Moazzam "the Caliphate is just a Muslim version of the EU" Begg, cutting the armed forces and police, all the Human Rights charities that the UK taxpayer funds to defend terrorists, not doing anything about the Jungle in Calais. Lots of little things that send an overall message that we're not up for this fight.
Do you deny that there are Islamic State and other terrorist groups who have sent members to Europe posing as refugees? Do you deny that rape can be used as a weapon of war and has been frequently by jihadis?