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Gainward 7800 GT 512MB AGP vs XFX 7800 GS Extreme 256MB AGP

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Gainward 7800 GT 512MB AGP vs XFX 7800 GS Extreme 256MB using F.E.A.R.

A Small Comparison of the Two Newest NVidia AGP cards

This is a small comparison / benchmark using the in-game test in F.E.A.R. comparing the new Gainward 7800 GT/GS (512MB) AGP and the XFX 7800 GS 256MB Extreme Edition AGP cards.

I used the same settings for each card. These were:
- 1280 x 960 res
- 2 x AA
- 8 x AF
- Max detail for everything except 'videos',
- Soft shadows off
- Vertical sync = off

All normal graphics settings were maximum /on.
Please see my sig for my system.
Using the Extreme-G 84.21v.2 drivers from Tweaksrus.
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XFX 7800 GS Extreme Edition 256 DDR3 running at 475MHz & 1350MHz (compared to its out-of-the box o/clock of 440Mhz and 1300MHz) I found these o/clocked settings the best for this card):

Results:
FPS min 22
FPS avg 35
FPS Max 71

Distribution:
9% below 25 FPS
71% 25 to 40 FPS
20% above 40 FPS

Comment: Quite playable.

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Gainward 7800 GS (GT) 512MB DDR3 AGP running at stock speeds (425MHz & 1200MHz)

Results:
FPS min 27
FPS avg 39
FPS max 71

Distribution:
0% below 25 FPS
71% 25 to 40 FPS
29% above 40 FPS

Comment: Bit of a jump.

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Gainward 7800 GS (GT) 512MB DDR3 AGP o/clocked to 460MHz & 1300MHz:

Results:
FPS min 27
FPS avg 40
FPS max 72

Distribution:
0% below 25 FPS
73% 25 to 40 FPS
27% above 40 FPS

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Comment: Not much of a difference from the un-overclocked results. Slightly higher mid-range, but slightly slower in max FPS... Go figure!

Conclusion:
This is really basic, but adding together all the improvements in results, of the Gainward card over the XFX card, there is approximately a 20% improvement in frame rates. The biggest jump was the 9% increase in FPS at 25-or-lower category. This is a good result, (If you own the new Gainward card). Dropping below 25FPS during game play spells one thing... "lag". These results are very approximate and only represent one system and not a true game-play experience (I don't think) -so your FPS would be different. But the direct comparison between the cards (without changing any settings) does illustrate the slight edge the new Gainward has over the XFX 256MB card.
Is the newest Gainward worth the extra cash??? I'm not really sure yet... (for my system anyway...) unless money is no object ;)

Wait until the 7900 AGP ? We'll have to see if it ever makes it to production.

One extra note: the new Gainward is amazingly quiet, and stays like that, even under full load...
Thanks for reading, and I look forward to any comments!

wildweb_uk
:cool:
 
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Hi there

Thanks for the report! :)

I think though you will find that as you increase visual details the Gainward card will handle things better.

Also increase your memory too 1400MHz as that is its rated speed so should handle it with ease. :)
 
Gibbo said:
Hi there

Thanks for the report! :)

I think though you will find that as you increase visual details the Gainward card will handle things better.

Also increase your memory too 1400MHz as that is its rated speed so should handle it with ease. :)

Ok. But what do you mean by 'rated speed'? It's stock speed is 1200MHz...
Thanks
 
wildweb_uk said:
Ok. But what do you mean by 'rated speed'? It's stock speed is 1200MHz...
Thanks

Yes but the memory is rated for 1400MHz, Gainward just downclock it for some strange reason, or maybe they opted for lower voltage for even cooler running. :)
 
Gibbo said:
Hi there

Thanks for the report! :)

I think though you will find that as you increase visual details the Gainward card will handle things better.

Also increase your memory too 1400MHz as that is its rated speed so should handle it with ease. :)

Hi Gibbo, I am clocking mine @ 460core and 1400mem with no probs at all, it still doesnt go above 56-58 under load, this card is amazing! do you have any idea what the core is capable of? i dont wanna bork it!

Thanks

Andy
 
Core is 500 tops, same with Memory. That's the highest I can go using the ExpertTool on the CD and Powerstrip. Btw on a different note, can anyone tell me how to install coolbits, don't have a clue. :confused:.

I ain't overclocked mine much did so to 450/1300 got something like 7.2k points in 3DMARK05. On stock I got 6945, isn't bad.

EDIT: My bad, it was 1500 on memory me thinks.
 
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Vita said:
Core is 500 tops, same with Memory. That's the highest I can go using the ExpertTool on the CD and Powerstrip. Btw on a different note, can anyone tell me how to install coolbits, don't have a clue. :confused:.

I ain't overclocked mine much did so to 450/1300 got something like 7.2k points in 3DMARK05. On stock I got 6945, isn't bad.

Thats good these cards have basically given AGP users the ability to play all the latest games with all the latest next gen image quality at reasonable frame rates. :)

They are a good buy and are now on special offer a slightly discounted price - £5+VAT saving. :)
 
its ok if you can get one to work, i have a gainward 7800gs but its still not letting me into windows, i ahve tried to run it with out the power feeds and with two independent clean feeds but to no avail, i have tried to contact lee at gainward uk but i have had no reply, im begining to think its not compatible with my gigabyte motherboard or something.
 
Hmm. Either that or a duff card. Ask someone at the Gigabyte forums, they could maybe help. I don't think the card is compatible with my MSI. If I change anything in BIOS it just hangs at POST. So I need to run default BIOS and it works.
 
Blood,

The obvious one is have you tried a fresh install of windows if it won't let you into windows.

Try reinstalling windows with your gainward card in the pc.

And/Or

Have you tried your Gainward in another PC?
 
sounds awkward i know but re-installing windows is not an option as my fiance uses the comp for her coursework and shes threatning me with instant death if she looses anything :D , iv just won an abit ic7 max3 on fleabay, i used to have a max3 a while ago but i killed it, so fingers crossed this sorts it, also asked for an rma exchange at ocuk.
 
Gibbo said:
Yes but the memory is rated for 1400MHz, Gainward just downclock it for some strange reason, or maybe they opted for lower voltage for even cooler running. :)

Hi Gibbo,
Upped the clock to 1400MHz memory, and just noticed after an hour of playing FEAR, some pixelation going on. I have never *ever* seen this before. Could this be due to the OC'd memory or the processor?
Thanks.
 
wildweb_uk said:
Hi Gibbo,
Upped the clock to 1400MHz memory, and just noticed after an hour of playing FEAR, some pixelation going on. I have never *ever* seen this before. Could this be due to the OC'd memory or the processor?
Thanks.

Easy way to find out is just drop the memmory back to default speeds and have another gaming session to see if the same happens. :)
 
hey Blood you could do what I do and install two windows xps on your machine. one for stability and one to play around on.

partition magic 8 is great at moving things around and creating new partitions for new xp installs. just make sure to have backups of your data. sounds a bit dangerous though with the threat of death hanging over your head.
 
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