805d best for cheap video editing rig?

wsurfa · 31 May 2006 at 18:13

Looks like I'm going to have to build a new pc for the parents as they've just decided they want to edit a shedload of video over the next few months. I don't think their current XP1700 will cut it though

Trying to keep the cost (excluding monitor, keyboard, mouse,dvdwriter) around £450, and thinking that the 805 overclocked will give them the best option. 1GB memory if we can get away with it, but might have to go to 2

Sound like the best option?

easyrider · 31 May 2006 at 18:18

that 805 clocked to 3.4ghz will be a nice editing system but dont forget the 2gb ram 1 gb just aint enough.

wsurfa · 31 May 2006 at 18:32

thanks - thought 2gb might be compulsory. Have to get the parents to splash out a bit more ££

easyrider · 31 May 2006 at 18:33

wsurfa said:
thanks - thought 2gb might be compulsory. Have to get the parents to splash out a bit more ££

better in the long run.

and the chip is only 79 quid ! in the first plave and they clock great too.

Raikiri · 31 May 2006 at 18:54

HS-017-AR Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 775) (HS-017-AR)
£15.95 £15.95
MY-034-GL GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC5300 667MHz Value DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB5300DC) (MY-034-GL)
£109.95 £109.95
CP-116-IN Intel Pentium 4 805 Dual Core "LGA775 Smithfield" 2.66GHz (533FSB) - Retail (CP-116-IN)
£71.95 £71.95
MB-116-AS Asus P5ND2 SLi nForce4 SLi (LGA775) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-116-AS)
£59.95 £59.95
CA-040-AN Antec Sonata II Piano Black Quiet Case - 450W Smart Power PSU (CA-040-AN)
£56.95 £56.95
HD-018-SA Samsung SpinPoint P SP2504C 250GB SATA-II 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-018-SA)
£45.95 £45.95
GX-027-BG BFG 3DFuzion GeForce 6200 LE Turbo Cache 256MB DDR TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-027-BG)
£19.95 £19.95
Subtotal £380.65
VAT £66.62
Total £447.27

Under £450, 2gb ram, big HD (fast/quiet also), nice case with a decent PSU, crappy but passive graphics, quiet and effective CPU cooler.

Mikey1280 · 31 May 2006 at 18:57

That is a nice spec there, I would go for it

easyrider · 31 May 2006 at 19:17

I would get a 945/955/975 chipset over the NF4 though

Raikiri · 31 May 2006 at 19:18

easyrider said:
I would get a 945/955/975 chipset over the NF4 though

Everyone says that yet my 100% stable 3.7ghz 805 disagrees

Also I was gonna spec the abit 955x board but it isnt in stock.

I chose this board as it has good voltage options and passive cooling.

m3csl2004 · 31 May 2006 at 19:40

ditch the turbocahce - the p4 needs bandwidth, you dont want it being stolen

R B Customs · 31 May 2006 at 19:53

easyrider said:
I would get a 945/955/975 chipset over the NF4 though

i aggree, its a lot more important with an intel rig

these are wonderful chips though, my mate uses one at stock soley for video editing. great chips, unbeatable price

easyrider · 31 May 2006 at 20:31

m3csl2004 said:
ditch the turbocahce - the p4 needs bandwidth, you dont want it being stolen

The turbo cache model has 64 mb of onboard ram.enough memory for a editing gfx card.

Editing doesn't use much video memory so the turbo cache will be fine.

Its not like he will be playing games or anything.

MikeTimbers · 31 May 2006 at 22:42

I don't see how an overclocked 805D can be considered cheap - the running costs will be horrific. Have you seen how much juice these things need? And how much cooling?

If you must go Intel, get the Presler dual-cores. See here

Raikiri · 31 May 2006 at 22:47

Mine at 3.7 uses 147w compared to the 103w of my 3200+ @ 2.5 (1,55v)... 44w extra @ 8p kwh (higher than average) on 24/7 would cost roughly £31 per year extra to run and thats saying it is @ 100% load 24/7 compared to a single core athlon 64 that has been OCed.

Hardly horrific now, is it?

Infinity · 31 May 2006 at 23:33

Its a big jump in percent terms but hardly worth considering still. Remember to turn off the light when you leave the room and you have your money back

easyrider · 1 Jun 2006 at 00:07

Raikiri said:
Mine at 3.7 uses 147w compared to the 103w of my 3200+ @ 2.5 (1,55v)... 44w extra @ 8p kwh (higher than average) on 24/7 would cost roughly £31 per year extra to run and thats saying it is @ 100% load 24/7 compared to a single core athlon 64 that has been OCed.

Hardly horrific now, is it?

agreed the wattage is increased but hardly anything to worry about in real terms

wsurfa · 1 Jun 2006 at 08:56

thanks for the info guys - intersting link about Intel about to drop prices of dual cores on 4th June. Since parents aren't around for a few weeks I'll wait to see if this actually happens.

The running costs don't concern me much as it won't be used much, and I don't think they'll notice the additonal elec cost on their bill as much as they would an increase in purchase price.

MikeTimbers · 1 Jun 2006 at 13:06

The Overclockers article was simply pointing out that there is a cooler-running more future-proofed Intel Dual-Core which will be very cheap if you're prepared to wait a couple of days.

Infinity · 1 Jun 2006 at 13:11

Wheres that article again

MikeTimbers · 1 Jun 2006 at 13:12

See here

wsurfa · 1 Jun 2006 at 18:31

It was this bit that intersted me

A Better Bargain Coming In A Week

On June 4, Intel is going to slash prices on its dual core processors, not only Smithfields, but Preslers, too.

The price most worth of note is that for the Pentium D 940: $133, or just about the same as today's prices for the 805. That's a 3.2GHz, 65nm dual-core CPU.

If you must have a really cheap dual core processors, the 940 may give you a little more headroom and definitely fewer hassles from extreme heat than the 805 (though it's still a pretty hot processor). Not saying it's a match for the AMD X2s, for either performance or heat, but it will cost almost $200 less than the cheapest X2.

Yes, the 805s will also go down to a mere $93, but the price difference between it and a more advanced Presler chip will dwindle to just $40, and there is such a thing as being penny-wise and pound-foolish.

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