Arsenal doing dodgy deals?

GDad · 1 Jun 2006 at 17:26

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/5037494.stm

Hmm, if true would be very bad news for Arsenal, lucky Henry has already signed his contract if they end up getting thrown out of Champions League. Although I don't think that should happen without similar punishments to the likes of Juve etc in the Italian league with their current corruption scandals.

But I would like to add: I blame David Dein

JohnnyG · 1 Jun 2006 at 17:28

Nothing will come of it except maybe some suspended punishments of some kind.
David Dein is definitely to blame but he's allowed to do stuff like that

mcdermos · 1 Jun 2006 at 17:44

None of the dodgy football deals that get exposed surprise me very much. Undoubtedly most clubs have got skeletons in their closets.

Badboy2k3 · 1 Jun 2006 at 17:47

mcdermos said:
Undoubtedly most clubs have got skeletons in their closets.

Agree with that.

Tunney · 1 Jun 2006 at 17:48

I doubt anything will come of it, but it would be funny if Arsenal got kicked out of the Champions League for it.

Sem · 1 Jun 2006 at 17:51

Tunney said:
I doubt anything will come of it, but it would be funny if Arsenal got kicked out of the Champions League for it.

perfect for us spurs fans

chimaera · 1 Jun 2006 at 17:53

It's hardly the worst thing a club could do, Beveren were about to go out of business and if anything arsenal saved them from administration.

I'd hardly call it dodgy when we paid them £1.5 million for an unknown right back called Eboue, if we were in control of the club then it would have been for much less.

Personally i think they should be stopping clubs like Chelsea tapping up players and then lying about it to the FA in the Ashley Cole saga.

Additionally nothing ever happened to Abramovich when it was pointed out his company own Spartak Moscow, if anyone seriously thinks that the £6 million deal to buy Jiri Jarosik off them wasn't dodgy they need their heads looking at.

foz2000 · 1 Jun 2006 at 18:12

chimaera said:
It's hardly the worst thing a club could do, Beveren were about to go out of business and if anything arsenal saved them from administration.

I'd hardly call it dodgy when we paid them £1.5 million for an unknown right back called Eboue, if we were in control of the club then it would have been for much less.

Personally i think they should be stopping clubs like Chelsea tapping up players and then lying about it to the FA in the Ashley Cole saga.

Additionally nothing ever happened to Abramovich when it was pointed out his company own Spartak Moscow, if anyone seriously thinks that the £6 million deal to buy Jiri Jarosik off them wasn't dodgy they need their heads looking at.

I actually for got about the jiri jarosik part

JohnnyG · 1 Jun 2006 at 18:28

chimaera said:
Additionally nothing ever happened to Abramovich when it was pointed out his company own Spartak Moscow, if anyone seriously thinks that the £6 million deal to buy Jiri Jarosik off them wasn't dodgy they need their heads looking at.

Does his company actually own them or did they just sponsor them?

chimaera · 1 Jun 2006 at 18:51

JohnnyG said:
Does his company actually own them or did they just sponsor them?

Yeah you're right it was just sponsorship, but still a possible conflict of interest. Personally i think that it was a non event, just as this case with arsenal, if arsenal had put money into sunderland or something then i'd be concerned.

Just smacks to me of a slow news day, and uefa typically going for pointless high profile cases while they ignore the long term problems in the game.

Gooner14 · 1 Jun 2006 at 23:09

I've added some of my comments in the Sheva thread. I think the only issue is "Did Arsenal have a controlling interest in Beveren?" There isn't any evidence in this, and after all why would the club need it, it's not like we will ever face them in competetion. They have also just be relegated, fface match fixing probes, perhaps they are trying to take Arsenal down too, or push the blame?

An Arsenal spokesman said: "Arsenal confirms that it has never owned, directly or indirectly, any shares in Beveren or had any power whatsoever to influence its management or administration.

"It did in 2001 provide funds of €1,570,703 by way of loan to a member of the consortium to assist in stabilising the finances of Beveren."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/5039016.stm

Sounds like BS to me, and as the Police might say "Move along, there's nothing too see"

Loki · 1 Jun 2006 at 23:26

I thinks as has been said before all Football clubs have skeletons in their closet. Although some punitive fine just to wipe the smug grin off Dein's face would be nice

Weebull · 2 Jun 2006 at 00:09

DD killed JFK :mad:

MR_Punk · 2 Jun 2006 at 00:13

David Deins a crazy ass so and so but thats why we love him and his sunbed!

+44

crashuk · 2 Jun 2006 at 00:40

throw the book at them.

Dtab · 2 Jun 2006 at 00:58

Gooner14 said:
Sounds like BS to me, and as the Police might say "Move along, there's nothing too see"

Actually it was the police who said 'Oi,where did that £1m come from ? '
They were checking the clubs finances for poss money laundering ,the club showed them the documents proving it came from Arsenal which is how the story came out.Well,that is the story they were peddling on the radio tonight.

Goatboy · 2 Jun 2006 at 08:35

Gooner14 said:
Sounds like BS to me, and as the Police might say "Move along, there's nothing too see"

Apart from this bit:

Arsenal repeatedly denied that they put money into the club.

Why lie about it?

Weebull · 2 Jun 2006 at 08:44

Because they didn't. They loaned money to someone wanting to takeover the club, they didn't put the money directly into the club. I know that sounds like semantics, but that's basically showing that they weren't buying shares in the club or anything similar, and weren't trying to get control of it in any way.

dantonkin · 2 Jun 2006 at 08:48

crashuk said:
throw the book at them.

Which book?

Gooner14 · 2 Jun 2006 at 09:06

Goatboy said:
Apart from this bit:

Why lie about it?

"At no time has anyone at Arsenal been contacted by any regulatory or investigatory body with respect to its relationship with Beveren. Arsenal and all its staff have acted properly throughout, in accordance with all applicable rules and regulations, and in the best interests of Beveren, Arsenal and the broader footballing community."

So how did they repeatedly deny it?

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