Raising money for charity.

ElRazur · 4 Jul 2006 at 15:30

I do understand the concept behind raising money for charity e.g like what David williams is doing now.

What i dont understand is people asking for sponsors when they wanna undertake what i will consider their "serious hobby" e.g Bungee jumping, base jumping, parachuting/gliding, streaking, etc

You might argue that they are trying to raise awareness but pardon me, i dont see how i give money to fund someone to go consider any of those activites mentioned above or similar will eventually help raise that level of awareness.

I noticed or should i say iirc Piggymon took some photos almost naked which was for cancer charity, my view on that is she's probably wanted to do some sort of modelling in that kind of way, so it will be seems to be a good idea so as to do it for charity?
Dont get me wrong, i aint digging at her (hope you understand, if you are reading this) but surely there are better/other ways to raise awareness or do something for charity.

The rich guy (friend of Bill gates) who donated almost all his money for charity lately, anyone remember? Now that's what i call doing something for charity. Yeah i know we aint all rich but i am not up for allowing someone to practice their serious hobby under the banner of doing something for charity.

I wonder how much these charity organisation gets after all the fund towards this hobby is finally paid e.g Mountain climbing or some other expensive hobby.
Anyway that's my view/understanding, perhabs i am paddling in the pool of ignorance here or im completely not getting the picture, what are your views or what is your take on the whole issue i disscused.....

Haly · 4 Jul 2006 at 15:34

ElRazur said:
...perhabs i am paddling in the pool of ignorance here or im completely not getting the picture...

Yup.

Spacky · 4 Jul 2006 at 15:37

Haly said:
Yup.

kitten_caboodle · 4 Jul 2006 at 15:38

it's David Walliams that's swimming the channel

I do see where you're coming from, but if people are willing to sponsor someone to undertake an activity then why the hell not?

Piggy got involved in that calendar to raise money and they have raised close to £2k from doing that. Even if she did want to do it anyway, she did it with the intention of raising money, which it did - I really don't see the problem with it.

If Freefaller, for example, suggested skydiving to raise money for Treefrog, I'd support him - even though he's got nearly 500 dives under his belt. I recently ran the race for life for Cancer Research and over two years I've raised nearly 1000 pounds. Everyone pays £10 to take part in the race and that covers the overheads for each person. I say if anyone is doing something they think that they can be sponsored for, then good luck to them. If you don't want to sponsor them, just don't, but while people will, it's worth them doing it

And as for costs, generally it's all proceeds/profits go to the charity. And most people donate services for free for charity, so once you take out the overheads, there's still more there than there would have been had nobody bothered to do the fundraising.

branddaly · 4 Jul 2006 at 15:38

Well the last person I sponsered did the Marathon de Sables run. He paid to go out of his own pocket. But whilst he was there though he could rise some money for charity. The charity gained, and it was up to the sponsor to decide the worth of sponsering him to do something he enjoyed. Personnally I hope it provided him with a little bit more motivation, but if it didn't at least the charity haven't lost out.

Gilly · 4 Jul 2006 at 15:50

I don't understand your point in the slightest.

If the charities make money why does it matter how?

Spacky · 4 Jul 2006 at 15:53

Gilly said:
I don't understand your point in the slightest.

If the charities make money why does it matter how?

Its bad mmmkay (apparently or something)

ElRazur · 4 Jul 2006 at 15:57

Gilly said:
I don't understand your point in the slightest.

If the charities make money why does it matter how?

Some post in here will indicate otherwise.

I dont see how a charity organisation stands to gain if someone expensive hobby is being footed by them? or most of the money they stand to gain is used in payment of gears needed for that awareness stunt?

Feel free to show me where im wrong or what im missing if you think i am.

Vonhelmet · 4 Jul 2006 at 16:04

I knew a lad who shot a balloon off his friends head at 200 yards with a bow and arrow for charity.

True story.

ElRazur · 4 Jul 2006 at 16:08

vonhelmet said:
I knew a lad who shot a balloon off his friends head at 200 yards with a bow and arrow for charity.

True story.

Now that's just stupid and dangerous (if true)

Gilly · 4 Jul 2006 at 16:10

ElRazur said:
Some post in here will indicate otherwise.

Huh? I don't understand that line.

You actually think that someone getting sponsored for something they enjoy doing anyway (or that they were going to do anyway) sees the charity worse off? How on earth did you arrive at that conclusion?

ElRazur said:
I dont see how a charity organisation stands to gain if someone expensive hobby is being footed by them? or most of the money they stand to gain is used in payment of gears needed for that awareness stunt?

Charities are run as businesses. They aren't a bunch of idiots shelling out for freeloaders to do whatever they like y'know. If they were they wouldn't be able to exist.

Vonhelmet · 4 Jul 2006 at 16:13

ElRazur said:
Now that's just stupid and dangerous (if true)

It is true.

As for stupid and dangerous, the lad doing the shooting was the top in the country for his age group at the time, and could have gone to the Olympics, but for an injury.

Besides, is it really that much more dangerous than parachuting or bungee jumping?

ElRazur · 4 Jul 2006 at 16:15

Gilly

Picture this

I always wanted to climb mount everest right, but i didnt have the funds.....somehow someway, i got the Charity to sponsor me - buy gear, pay for my training excercise etc. Finally i managed to climb everest.

How did i raise the much needed of awareness? (im just like any member of the public)

How much gain in terms of monies, is made as a result of my trip?

If anything, i got what i want - always wanted to climb everest. What did they get?

Vonhelmet · 4 Jul 2006 at 16:17

ElRazur said:
Gilly

Picture this

I always wanted to climb mount everest right, but i didnt have the funds.....somehow someway, i got the Charity to sponsor me - buy gear, pay for my training excercise etc. Finally i managed to climb everest.

How did i raise the much needed of awareness? (im just like any member of the public)

How much gain in terms of monies, is made as a result of my trip?

If anything, i got what i want - always wanted to climb everest. What did they get?

At risk of jumping in before Gilly, one would imagine that the charity got more in sponsorship than they spent in sending you up Everest. Not to mention the charity would get some publicity.

Gilly · 4 Jul 2006 at 16:17

How many people do you know that has climbed Everest for charity?

How many of those do you know the charity funded everything?

How many of those did the charity end up with deficit?

I think you've pulled this opinion out of your ass and it has no basis in reality

ElRazur · 4 Jul 2006 at 16:21

I was making an illustration there man, before we lose it in the realms of confusion and misunderstanding, what im saying is this - People seems to get their serious hobby funded under the pretex of doing it for charity. Which imo opinion it dosent seem right.

I am also tempted to say, stupid things too like streaking etc.

Gilly · 4 Jul 2006 at 16:23

ElRazur said:
I was making an illustration there man, before we lose it in the realms of confusion and misunderstanding, what im saying is this - People seems to get their serious hobby funded under the pretex of doing it for charity. Which imo opinion it dosent seem right.

I am also tempted to say, stupid things too like streaking etc.

But, again, I want to hit the point home here.

Even if it is something the person enjoys or if it is something the person wanted to achieve, if the charity makes money where is the problem?

I'll answer for you, there isn't one.

kitten_caboodle · 4 Jul 2006 at 16:24

ElRazur said:
I was making an illustration there man, before we lose it in the realms of confusion and misunderstanding, what im saying is this - People seems to get their serious hobby funded under the pretex of doing it for charity. Which imo opinion it dosent seem right.

I am also tempted to say, stupid things too like streaking etc.

so what about charity records? do you feel the same about them?

ElRazur · 4 Jul 2006 at 16:29

kitten_caboodle said:
so what about charity records? do you feel the same about them?

You mean music recorded for charity right?
I dont have an issue with that kind of charity e.g We are the world, according to wiki, raised 50million, now that is cool and i dont have an issue with it

“We Are the World” raised about $50 million for famine relief.

ElRazur · 4 Jul 2006 at 16:31

Gilly said:
But, again, I want to hit the point home here.

Even if it is something the person enjoys or if it is something the person wanted to achieve, if the charity makes money where is the problem?

I'll answer for you, there isn't one.

Are you saying it is ok to be funded in whatever stunt one see fit simply because they individual enjoy it and will/might raise money for charity? (and as long as they are doing it in the name of charity?)

Raising money for charity.

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