dvla rant etc

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I know the many super duper law abiding people out there who never even so much as fart in public will disagree with me, but I'm hoping there are still some common sense types still left in this world.

I had a car in my garage (old Civic). I stripped some bits off it; engine, gearbox, interior but left all the body panels on it since I had no use for them. Now the time comes to scrap the car and I call a friend of a mechanic I know to come pick it up.

So I took the morning off work and the guy came to pick up the car. Now my garage is situated in a narrow back lane that runs behind my house so it was phsyically impossible for him to maneouver his truck to tow it out of the garage since the front wheels + hubs were missing. He would have to lift the car and turn at the same time and there just isn't enough space.

He told me if I can get the car out he can come back the next day. I couldn't take another morning off work so I called the DVLA to explain the situation and ask for advice. I asked if I could leave the car outside my house for a few hours from 8am till around lunchtime when it is due to be collected. I got passed around to a few people but I ended up speaking to a robot person who just quoted the law about having to tax a vehicle. I said fine, I will pay the tax, cash it back in the next day and just lose 1 months worth. But then I need an MOT and insurance :rolleyes: for a car without an engine that's going to the scrap yard...

I thought ****** it, it's only going on the road for 3 hours they won't know. So I put the hubs + wheels back on the car and the next morning roll it around 50 yards and park it outside my house. Whichever way you look at it this car has to at some point, touch a public road without tax in order to be collected. There is no other way around it as far as I can see.

I then get a phone call at work around 12pm from the guy who's collecting the car. He said he picked it up but there was a sticker on the windscreen saying "this car is not taxed" etc.

Who wants to bet me they used the information I gave them when I called for advice? :rolleyes: :mad:. I mean it was on the road for 4 bloody hours. I had given them the time and date of when I was going to have the car collected and they used it against me to make some easy cash :mad:

So now I'm engaged in a letter war with someone (another robot) from the DVLA. They are asking for £44. In my latest letter I have asked for a breakdown of the costs included in this £44 and how they arrived at this figure for less than 4 hours of road use. In my next letter I will be offering the total sum of £9.17 which is equal to 1 months tax on my vehicle.

Yes I know I broke the law, but suggest an alternative and I will hold my hands up. I asked in my last letter to them what I should have done... their follow up letter failed to answer this question. They were only interested in money and threatening me with court action if I didn't pay :rolleyes:

OK I'm going to bed now!
 
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This is the sort of thing that gets the administration in this country a bad name. You were genuine and up front about your situation, they were completely inhuman and inflexibile.

I only have contempt for this sort of behaviour...
 
why bother actively pursuing the millions in this country wilfully driving around with no tax or insurance when you can just squeeze the honest citizen for money at every slight harmless infraction?

I hate the DVLA, I've had similar dealings with them in the past such as forgetting to re-SORN my project car after a year and being fined. Despite sending them numerous letters with photos of the bare shell and so on, they wouldn't budge, just stuck to the official line... you have to pay blah blah blah :rolleyes: :mad:
 
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dont see the point in that

that are serial tax dodgers, uninsured drivers and the like

and we're pestering somebody who leaves a car on the road for a few hours to be picked up :rolleyes:

pity you didnt have a drive you could have left it on
 
I sympathise as the same sort of thing happened to me with a Mini about 12 years ago. I had to pay an £80 fine as well what it cost me to scrap it. The chavs up the road just dump their cars in the road when finished and the council take em away FOC. They never get fined but if you do it correctly you get stitched.
 
Thanks for the replies guys. It makes me feel so much better than there are some people with common sense still in this country. :)


DRZ said:
This is the sort of thing that gets the administration in this country a bad name. You were genuine and up front about your situation, they were completely inhuman and inflexibile.

I only have contempt for this sort of behaviour...

Inhuman. That describes it down to a tee. I sometimes wonder if the letters I'm gettting from them are are from a computer or a real person.
 
DVLA you say?

I moved recently, and I have send the log book off to them last week to let them know that I have moved, only to be told it takes them 4 weeks to send you a new log book! My tax runs out at the start of February, and I still haven't received anything back and I cannot tax it without a log book. :( If I was to tax it now, the tax disc would get sent to my old address. Bloody stupid how something like a change of address can take a month. :rolleyes:

I guess I'm going to have to get in touch with the owner of my old place, and see if I can get the tax disc sent there... At least I have a drive to keep my car on, yet it won't be taxed so I guess I'll have to SORN it until I get my logbook back. but guess how long the SORN letter takes to get here.... you guess it - 4 damn weeks! I swear a bunch of trained monkeys could do a better job. Looks like the push bike will be getting some extra usage... at least it's not 1 degree outside now... otherwise I'd have to sue the DVLA for Frostbite to my fingers and ears ;)

Rant over, I now feel better - thanks for making a dedicated DVLA rant thread :D
 
They could use the VIN plate/chassis number to identify it. Could grind that off, although I would never condone something like that ;)
 
Carrying on from this thread, reading this. Completely idiotic. Can't believe how out of control the whole thing is :(

BTW (nothing aimed at the op :D) Aimed at people who willingly drive around without tax and insurance.
 
tools! I had to scrap a car once. scrapper took away I gave v5 then a few months later a get a letter saying I have failed to tax the car. well no I have not since I don't own it anymore! got lots ofnasty letters and the robots on the phone said I must pay or face death.. in the end I wrote to them and told them that I,d informed them by letter on xx date that i'd sold it. then they stopped chasing. can't believe what they hav done to u. ideots....
 
Had the DVLA chasing me for tax on my car which was already taxed took 4 or so letters and a few phone calls to get it sorted but as said earlier its pay up of face death very harsh wording. The thing that really annoyed me was the letter that said they wern't going to pursue my case no apology or anything.
 
Well not surprisingly this has now gone to court. But there are a few points to be made:

1. I wrote a letter to the DVLA and asked that they reconsider the fine, they refused but the end of the letter demanded £110 instead of £44.

2. I wrote back and asked why the fine had increased to £110 from the original £44. They replied stating that it was a clerical error and apologised.

3. I wrote again and asked them why they are allowed to get away with human errors while I am not. They ignored this letter and just issued the summons.

4. The Magistrates Court forms arrived today summoning me to court on 30/04/07. Today is the 26th! There is no date on the forms other than "date information laid: 03/04/07". I checked the address on the letter and the post code is wrong! It says CF3 2XX (the XX are other letters but I don't want to put the real ones on the forum) instead of CF5 2XX. On the next page they have used another post code: CF3 22XX.

So the court forms have arrived late because of their error with the post code. Can I go to them tomorrow and ask for them to re-issue the forms with a new date?

5. They state that I have owned the car since 05/03/2005 when I actually bought the car on 12/06/2006. The guy I bought it off had not put it in his name (I didn't know this) and he didn't tax it so they are trying to blame me for not taxing it in 2005!! All I have is the green slip that was given to me when I bought the car. This has the correct date on it, but the V5 log book says I bought it in 2005.

Unbelievable.
 
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Surely with this many errors they dont really have a case....any magistrate with an ounce of sense will throw it out surely? then again i'm just saying what i think should happen, so its prob completely wrong :(
 
I know what will happen, they are going to fine me anyway. Why wouldn't they? They are allowed to make endless mistakes that waste my time. I make one mistake that hurt nobody nor did I try to get away with it and they want to throw the book at me.

I just need more time to submit my case. But they will probably just say "tough" and expect me to be there on the 30th.
 
Although it will probably do a fat lot of good, I'd write the whole mess in a nice long letter and send it to a couple of newspapers, your local MP, the transport minister, the cheif of the DVLA and any other fat cats you can think of.

You should have just dumped it and reported it stolen tbh

Originally Posted by DRZ
I only have contempt for this sort of behaviour...

Sums it up tbh
 
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