These temps look ok? Opty 165.

gt_junkie

gt_junkie

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Hi,

O/C'd my 165 to 2.88ghz @ 1.39v

I've had to add a 70mm fan to the PWMIC area to keep temps down from the mid 60's to what you can see in the pic.

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Anything i should be concerned about?

P.S: I know i've only been orthossing for 30mins!!! :p

gt
 
I'd say that your cpu temp is a bit toasty considering your vcore. What cooling are you using on the cpu?
 
Thanks kitfit1,

I'm using a scythe ninja with 2 akasa ambers running in a push/push layout @ 100%.

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Think i might drop the volts slightly and clock to 2.8 just to be on the safe side! Don't want it melting!!! ;)

gt

Edit: Nice clock on that 170! :cool:
 
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I would'nt drop the vcore or the clock. What i would do though is reseat the hsf with as little as5 as possible to get those cpu temps down. As i said, for such a low vcore, those cpu temps are to high.
 
Run CoreTemp to see what both the cores are at. Some dual cores run one core much hotter than the other, so it could be reporting the hottest core, when the other one is only at around 40c.

My current X2 4200 at 1.35v / 2.5ghz has core 1 at 38-40c, and core 2 at 48-50c ( this was at 52-55c until AS5 settled in a bit ) This is with a Scythe Mine+120mm fan. Tried remounting it a few times ( covering the IHS with AS5 & using a ' grain of rice ' sized blob on the middle of the IHS ) with hardly any noticeable difference in temps.
 
gt_junkie said:
I'm using a scythe ninja with 2 akasa ambers running in a push/push layout @ 100%.
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Are both those fans blowing onto the heatsink :confused: If they are, wouldn't they be better in a push / pull setup, so one''s venting out the rear of the case ?
 
MoodyB said:
Are both those fans blowing onto the heatsink :confused: If they are, wouldn't they be better in a push / pull setup, so one''s venting out the rear of the case ?
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Hi MoodyB,

I've tried both configurations and have to say the difference is non existant (infact the push/push tends to cool better by about 1 degree sometimes!) and i've seen push/pull v push/push reviews that back this up too!

I know what you mean though - i'd always believed a push/pull would work better as it was constantly moving the air! I don't understand the maths but i do know that each method works about the same! :)

gt
 
gt_junkie said:
I don't understand the maths but i do know that each method works about the same! :)
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I don't understand it either, but your results speak for themselves :)

Nice overclock btw, wish my 4200 clocked as well as that :( Guess my A8N-SLI SE / 4x512mb cheap'ish ram isn't doing me any favours.

Post what temps you get with CoreTemp, if you get a chance.
 
MoodyB said:
I don't understand it either, but your results speak for themselves :)

Nice overclock btw, wish my 4200 clocked as well as that :( Guess my A8N-SLI SE / 4x512mb cheap'ish ram isn't doing me any favours.

Post what temps you get with CoreTemp, if you get a chance.
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Will do!

Incidentally, what clock's your 4200 at? I nearly got one as an upgrade for my 3800 which did 2.5ghz @ 1.4v at a roasty 56 degrees load. :rolleyes: I thought the 11x multi would be nice! However i got the DFI SLi DR and 165 instead - no real need for a higher multi then! ;)

Your 4 sticks of ram might be hindering O/C performance - also, what cooler do you have on the cpu?

gt
 
What stepping 165 is that? I just clocked mine to 2.4ghz and left at stock volts for time being with very cheap ram but im sure it could do more...how come these 165s like low Vcore then? My stepping is one of the supposed bad ones that only can expect 2.6/2.7ghz max. I just use a freezer pro to cool mine. Im more interested in stable silent clock. I went the cheap route with ram also as im using 4 x 512mb to get 2gig as I dont care for 2t cmd.
 
gt_junkie said:
Incidentally, what clock's your 4200 at? I nearly got one as an upgrade for my 3800 which did 2.5ghz @ 1.4v at a roasty 56 degrees load. :rolleyes: I thought the 11x multi would be nice! However i got the DFI SLi DR and 165 instead - no real need for a higher multi then! ;)
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It's a 2.5ghz@ either 1.35 or 1.375v. Sometimes 1.35 is rock solid for hours, other times it crashes within 10min and needs 1.375. Hottest core gets to around 50c@load in Orthos. I also think my OEM XtremeMusic might have something to do with it, as when the pc locks up when overclocked it's normally when playing a vid with sound. PCI bus is locked@33mhz in bios ( and checked in ClockGen )

gt_junkie said:
Your 4 sticks of ram might be hindering O/C performance - also, what cooler do you have on the cpu?
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They probably are. I might try it with 2 sticks just to see what happens at some point. As for the cooler, its a Scythe Mine with a 120mm 80cfm Evercool fan controlled via SpeedFan. If I do de'IHS my 4200, I'll need to replace this with a Big Typhoon, or something similar.
 
sniper007 said:
What stepping 165 is that? I just clocked mine to 2.4ghz and left at stock volts for time being with very cheap ram but im sure it could do more...how come these 165s like low Vcore then? My stepping is one of the supposed bad ones that only can expect 2.6/2.7ghz max. I just use a freezer pro to cool mine. Im more interested in stable silent clock. I went the cheap route with ram also as im using 4 x 512mb to get 2gig as I dont care for 2t cmd.
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It's CCB1E 0609FPBW and is a stepping that'll generally do 2.6-2.8ghz.

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I have had it at 2.945ghz but it wanted more volts to stabilise - as i'm on air i didn't wanna push it too hard so kept it at 2.88ghz! Temps were 55 degrees max at that point! :rolleyes:

gt
 
MoodyB said:
If I do de'IHS my 4200, I'll need to replace this with a Big Typhoon, or something similar.
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I've been considering that route too but don't know how good the typhoon is! I've looked on the net but it's difficult to get good comparisons!

Would love to hear from someone whose used a ninja on an X2 or dual core opty then removed the IHS and moved to a typhoon. I would only consider it if there were more than a 5 degree improvement in temps! :)

gt
 
My main reason for considering it is that it has, in some cases, brought both core temps@load closer together. As my 2nd core runs 10c+ higher than the 1st, it's worth a shot.
 
Yours look slike one capable of 3ghz. Mine is a "avoid" one.



Known good steppings that are capable of 3ghz:
CCB1E 0550VPMW
CCBWE 0550UPMW (Some are crappy actually)
CCB1E 0605XPMW
CCB1E 0606VPMW
CCB1E 0608MPMW
CCB1E 0609FPAW
CCB1E 0609FPMW
CCBBE 0610DPMW
CCBBE 0615EPMW
CCBBE 0617FPMW

Honorable Mention:
CCBWE 0530TPMW (2.9ghz avg.)
CCBWE 0546XPMW (2.85ghz avg.)
CCBWE 0609FPAW (Unconfirmed precise averages, but seems to be 2.8-2.9)

AVOID if you want to hit 2.8ghz+:
CCBWE 0534SPMW
CCBWE 0543TPMW
CCBWE 0546MPMW
CCBWE 0551 (Any packing code) (2.7-2.75ghz 1.55v)
CCBWE 0602 (Any packing code)
CCBWE 0607 (Any packing code) (2.65ghz 1.55v)
 
I (somewhat sadly!) read through most of the dual core Opty thread over on the xtremesystems boards and the general consesus was that chips with the CCB1E stepping do tend to run hotter than the others for some reason.
 
El Jimben said:
I (somewhat sadly!) read through most of the dual core Opty thread over on the xtremesystems boards and the general consesus was that chips with the CCB1E stepping do tend to run hotter than the others for some reason.
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Yeah - i'd seen something like that too El Jimben! I loaded up coretemp as requested and found that the temps were 55 degrees on core 0 and 62 on core 1. :eek:

I've tried speedfan, everest and smartguardian and they all show sinmilar temps (+/- 1 degree) and now coretemp is giving this heightened reading! I don't know which is right but i'm inclined to believe the higher temp for safety's sake! I've have since lowered the Voltage to 1.35 and have it clocked at 2.8ghz which was prime stable for two hours (had to go to bed and not one for leaving a pc on overnight!) and the temps never pushed past 52 in coretemp.

Might try to clock it a little more and see where it maxes but for the moment i'm more than happy! :)

Thanks for the input guys! :D

gt
 
Looks like the o/c wasn't fully stable as i orthos'd again yesterday and had it fail after only 10mins at 2.8ghz @ 1.35v.

So i decided to up the volts again but only to 1.375 and got the following result:

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How far out is smartguardian! :eek: Shocking when you'd think both it and coretemp would be using data from the same sensor!!! :mad:

Temp is a little high in coretemp but hasn't pushed past 55 and only flashes up to that from 54 so is borderline on that! :rolleyes:

gt
 
gt_junkie said:
Your 4 sticks of ram might be hindering O/C performance
gt
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They are. Just did some testing earlier tonight, and it turns out they're costing me at least 300mhz :rolleyes: With 2 sticks of 512mb I can get to 250x11 @ 1.4vcore. With 4 sticks, it just would not run stable at anything over 2.5ghz, no matter what mem divider / timings / vcore combo I tried.
 
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