Xbox Died this morning

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Xbox Died this morning **UPDATED**

Finally got the fabeld '3 rings of death' (except its not 3 rings, its just red from 3 o'clock to 12 o'clock) Either way she aint booting up.

I bought it on the 11/01/06 which only makes her 1 Year 3 Months and 16 days old!

Do I stand much chance of getting it fixed from microsoft? I should imagine the shop wont want to touch it.

Thanks

EDIT: Update on post 32 (I dont know how to link there but its only the top of page 2 :) )

EDIT: Another update. Post 39 :)

EDIT: UPDATE POST 58
 
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TheMagicPirate said:
Finally got the fabeld '3 rings of death' (except its not 3 rings, its just red from 3 o'clock to 12 o'clock) Either way she aint booting up.

I bought it on the 11/01/06 which only makes her 1 Year 3 Months and 16 days old!

Do I stand much chance of getting it fixed from microsoft? I should imagine the shop wont want to touch it.

Thanks

You are still entitled to a full replacement mate, have a look for the sales of goods act, im sure virii will be here shortly :)
 
Have you called 911 yet? :D

I assume you didn't take out the extended warranty offer? I believe there is a way to get it replaced with another refurbished working item....
 
My friends 360 went kaput this week as well, microsoft wouldnt give him a replacement no matter what tactic he used.

They want £85 or something to fix it, even when he stated the sale of good act that it was unreasonable to last only just over a year, they didnt budge.

He now plans to buy a core, flash his bios and get his money back that way, he owns nearly 30 original games but they have lost a customer over this sorry affair.
 
InwardSinging said:
My friends 360 went kaput this week as well, microsoft wouldnt give him a replacement no matter what tactic he used.

They want £85 or something to fix it, even when he stated the sale of good act that it was unreasonable to last only just over a year, they didnt budge.

He now plans to buy a core, flash his bios and get his money back that way, he owns nearly 30 original games but they have lost a customer over this sorry affair.

Did he not get trading standards involved mate? They are breaking the law by not budging?
 
Johnz0r said:
You are still entitled to a full replacement mate, have a look for the sales of goods act, im sure virii will be here shortly :)

I was hoping for that response. Just been reading it online now. Surely 15 months isn't a reasonalble amount of time for a £280 console.

PiKe said:

Erroe code "0020 (Not yet known, possibly overheating)" Great :rolleyes:

Gonna give the store I bought it from a call, they are quite small tho' sonot sure how much hassle I'm gonna get.


EDIT: Also, I have a 4 GB USB stick, can I use that to put my saved games etc.. on in case they want to take the HDD too?

EDIT 2: If I get a replacement will I get/need a new recipt with a new 12 month warranty?
 
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TheMagicPirate said:
EDIT: Also, I have a 4 GB USB stick, can I use that to put my saved games etc.. on in case they want to take the HDD too?
no.
EDIT 2: If I get a replacement will I get/need a new recipt with a new 12 month warranty?
If from the shop, yes.
 
SteveOBHave said:
Altho not quite in the droves they were from the start - that's one thing you can say (so far) about the PS3 - they don't appear to be breaking often (yet).

Personally I don't think the PS3's will break in any significant quantities. I believe as this is a possible Blu-Ray flagship they will have ensured the highest build quality they possibly can.
 
Well the shop wont take it back, even though I called trading standards and they told me my contract is with the shop not the mfr.

On the phone to MS now to see what they say but I suspect the retailer will be getting a well worded letter sent 1st class recorded in the morning.

Any suggestions for 'demands' in the letter? I was thinking some kind of reply within 5 working days at least to acknowledge receiving the letter and 2 weeks to sort the problem?
 
PiKe said:
Go to the shop in person.

I did, the MANAGER told me that trading standards were 'lying to me' and 'having me on'.

****

When I asked for his name he told me 'Paul' and the Area Manager is 'Steve'. Apprantly staff at this company dont need surnames.

Just got off the phone with MS (the india branch :rolleyes: ) and they want 150EUR to fix it.
 
TheMagicPirate said:
I did, the MANAGER told me that trading standards were 'lying to me' and 'having me on'.

****

When I asked for his name he told me 'Paul' and the Area Manager is 'Steve'. Apprantly staff at this company dont need surnames.

Just got off the phone with MS (the india branch :rolleyes: ) and they want 150EUR to fix it.
Maybe you should have asked him to ring them.

Ring trading standards and give them the name of the shop in question and phone number. I'm sure they'll oblige after a friendly call.
 
Of course he'll say trading standards are fobbing you off, it's a desperate attempt to get you off their back. Keep at them, and write them a letter explaining what's happened, what trading standards have said and especially what the staff have told you. Send it to head office, I'm sure they'll be happy to know their staff are telling people trading standards are lieing to them :eek: . Make sure you send the letter recorded so you have proof of delivery otherwise they'll just say "what letter? We didn't receieve a letter" :) . Quote the SOGA, and look in the manual of the XBox for anything like "We at Microsoft hope you enjoy this product for many years" or something along them lines. I'm currently having my TV repaired under the SOGA and we found a quote in the manual stating "We hope you enjoy this TV for many years to come." It's the best way to prove how long a product is intended to last.
 
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Meatball said:
The manual actually says

"Do not take your XBOX360 console or its accessories to your retailer for repair or service unless instucted to do so by an XBOX Customer Service Rep"


I've just finished writting this letter

27th April 2007
To: ‘Paul’ (Manager Grainger Games MetroCentre)
Cc: David Burt (Grainger Games Head Office);
Trading Standards (Newcastle City Council)
Re: Faulty Console (15 months old)


Dear Paul
My name is Craig Green, I spoke to you today (27th April 2007) regarding my XBOX360 console becoming faulty. I informed you that I had bought it last January (the 11/01/06 to be precise) and that on the 27th April 2007 it became faulty and would not boot up.

Now when I popped into the shop I never got the chance to inform you of the problem I was actually having as you were too quick to tell me that you wouldn’t do anything.
After 15 months of happy gaming when I turned on my console on the morning of 27th April 2007 I was greeted with red lights on my console instead of the usual green. I followed the instructions in the manual and called Microsoft, they told me they wanted 150EUR to fix the console.
Realising that I was past the 12 months from purchase date, I contacted trading standards thinking that surely I shouldn’t have to pay to repair a 15 month old console. They told me that:-

“Goods are of satisfactory quality if they reach the standard that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory, taking into account the price and any description.”

I interpret this as saying a product should last a reasonable amount of time based on cost and description, and if it doesn’t then the retailer should try and repair or replace the item.
I would hope that you would agree that 15 months and 11 days is not a ‘reasonable amount of time’ for a games console costing £280. I also saw on the DTI website1 that:-

“It is the seller, not the manufacturer, who is responsible if goods do not conform to contract”

At reading this I thought ‘great’ I’ll pop into the shop and get it all sorted out today. I was wrong. As you will know Paul, when I came in we had a brief chat about trading standards and when I told you that my console should have lasted more than 15 months and that trading standards have told me that it is the shops responsibility to repair or replace the item, you told me that ‘they were having me on’ and ‘lying to me’ and that you only have to give 1 months warranty in store, and the rest I should take up with Microsoft.
I find that you think I am stupid enough to believe that Trading Standards would lie to me (and the rest of the country) quite offensive. A product that I have purchased from your store, thus giving you business, has become faulty. Admittedly it is out of the 12 months warranty period but well within what I would call a ‘reasonable amount of time’ and yet you have just refused to do anything about it.

After doing some research and contacting trading standards I believe that it is indeed your responsibility as a retailer to repair or replace my console, even though it is outside of its 12 months warranty, as 15 months of use is not satisfactory.

I hope to hear you reply on this matter in a timely manner.

Thank you for your time

Craig Green

And its getting sent first class recorded (hopefully today) and fingers crossed it will get me a result.
 
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