Fat people on planes

mattyj1085 · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:30

Just feel like having a moan about something tonight

I dont think its fair that there is a luggage allowance of a certain weight and people get charged for every kilo over this weight, yet someone who is 25stone doesnt get charged when they take up half of someones seat.

Surely they should have to pay for 2 seats on the plane or the luggage / hand luggage allowance should be increased to match the combined weight of the heaviest person plus their baggage.

I have been on a few plane journeys when ive been seated next to someone who is overflowing onto my seat. I wouldnt be allowed to plonk another bag next to me, half spilling onto someones seat, aswell as my hand luggage and luggage so why should they?

PardonTheWait · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:33

They get to spill into your seat, but you get to live your life not being a fat ****, I'd rather be in your position than theirs.

Tony Williams · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:34

mattyj1085 said:
Just feel like having a moan about something tonight

I dont think its fair that there is a luggage allowance of a certain weight and people get charged for every kilo over this weight, yet someone who is 25stone doesnt get charged when they take up half of someones seat.

Surely they should have to pay for 2 seats on the plane or the luggage / hand luggage allowance should be increased to match the combined weight of the heaviest person plus their baggage.

I have been on a few plane journeys when ive been seated next to someone who is overflowing onto my seat. I wouldnt be allowed to plonk another bag next to me, half spilling onto someones seat, aswell as my hand luggage and luggage so why should they?

Just think how much fitter you are.

Weebull · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:35

What with the fuel price increases, haven't they been threatening to do just this recently?

Mansize_tissue · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:36

Cut the skin of theirs off which is spilling onto your seat.

gillywibble · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:36

So what should they do? Weigh the fattest person with their luggage and make that the limit for everyone else?

danza · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:38

gillywibble said:
So what should they do? Weigh the fattest person with their luggage and make that the limit for everyone else?

Good idea, but Super Guppies would never be chartered as commercial airliners.

mattyj1085 · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:40

gillywibble said:
So what should they do? Weigh the fattest person with their luggage and make that the limit for everyone else?

no, this would mean stupid increases of fuel and therefore ticket costs.

Simply get the passenger to stand on the scales with their luggage, if the weight is over say 128 kilos then charge £10 for every kilo over

17 stone (108 kilos) plus 20 kilos baggage

- meaning fatties who weight 27 stone have to pay a £60 excess. This will be used to pay for fuel or anything else

frosty03 · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:40

Yes. Me + Bag = <100kg. But if my luggage is 5kgs over, i get charged for "extra fuel used to carry my bag".

Obese >100kgs pays nothing extra (assuming luggage is within limits).

Logic = FAIL

Jokester · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:42

You could have a dummy seat like the boxes they use for checking hand baggage size. Don't fit in it, pay for an bigger seat.

HEADRAT · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:43

I was on a plane back from Seattle once in "Cattle Class", the two people either side of me were huge, when dinner came I couldn't get my tray table out as the womens fat stomach was hanging over my armrest.

When the meal finally came I had to stab my piece of chicken with my fork and eat if like a lollipop as I couldn't get my arms down by my side due to the size of the people either side.

If you have a cert. to say you are overweight for a medical reason then fine, otherwise you should be forced to buy a bigger seat that you revolting guts fit into

thepharcyde · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:46

I have never understood this either........should apply to my daily commute to London by train too. Fat people should pay to sit in first class only (fat ass seats) as back in peasant class where the seats only accommodate non-obese passengers.

Prejudice tonight

Solari · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:46

I've had this and just looked for an empty seat nearby. I have promptly relocated. Cabin crew have never objected apart from once where I got some spiel about records in case of an emergency (I assume that means a crash).

mattyj1085 · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:47

frosty03 said:
Yes. Me + Bag = <100kg. But if my luggage is 5kgs over, i get charged for "extra fuel used to carry my bag".

Obese >100kgs pays nothing extra (assuming luggage is within limits).

Logic = FAIL

why does the logic fail

passenger + baggage = >130kg then charge £10 a kilo more

It would be like me taking a 60kg piece of luggage. Not allowed (unless paying for it)

p4radox · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:47

I'm in full agreement that fatties should be charged extra.

But the difficulty arises when you've got completely healthy people who are big, ie: basketball players/bodybuilders. Do you charge them extra too?

Solari · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:48

p4radox said:
I'm in full agreement that fatties should be charged extra.

But the difficulty arises when you've got completely healthy people who are big, ie: basketball players/bodybuilders. Do you charge them extra too?

I forsee charging by BMI... </orwell>

Weebull · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:48

HEADRAT said:
When the meal finally came I had to stab my piece of chicken with my fork and eat if like a lollipop as I couldn't get my arms down by my side due to the size of the people either side.

1) Take two pieces of chicken.

2) Throw one to the floor on the left, beyond left-hand-side fatty.

3) Throw the other to the right, past right-hand-side fatty.

4) Enjoy your newfound space as they dive for sweet, sweet chickeny goodness.

thepharcyde · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:48

Jokester said:
You could have a dummy seat like the boxes they use for checking hand baggage size. Don't fit in it, pay for an bigger seat.

Or simply put in the hold, with the other animals

A mockup of the seat, too fat in the hold you go

p4radox · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:48

Solari said:
I forsee charging by BMI... </orwell>

I seriously hope not. BMI is a joke.

AtreuS · 3 Jul 2008 at 23:49

Im a big lad myself

Im 23 stone and 5ft 8 so i do have a nice gut on me lol However because im also of a large frame i carry it a lot better than some others. I tend to find that its not the belly i have problems with but my shoulders!

I have always done weights even though i dont diet or trim down my gut. My shoulders have always been broad and the seats in most planes are so bloody narrow i have to sit almost side ways on for the whole flight! Why should i have to pay the same as you and yet sit in total discomfort for the whole trip just because the seat was designed for a midget?

The problem is the fact that the seats are designed for average people of average height and average build. This average was set probably in the 50's 60's when people were generally a lot smaller/slimmer than now.

Would you be happy to charge a 6ft rugby player extra just because he weighs more than you do? where does it end. I agree that massively obese people do cause problems in planes, usually its the huge women with thighs the side of a rhino that i see causing grief. Men tend to carry it round the belly so dont "spill" into the next seat, the women tend to carry more on the thighs so the opposite is true.

I suppose it all comes down to basic human rights... whats is "normal" when it comes to size? do we start to introduce fat seats on planes or do we start making thin seats with more on the row for all the stick insects!