My SG03 Experience

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Nottingham
Components
Silverstone SG03 (Black)
Intel E8400 D0
DFI Lan Party JR P45-T2RS
Kingston HyperX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 8500C5 1066MHz
Sapphire 4870 Vapor-X
Corsair HX620w Module PSU
Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB SATA-II 32MB Cache (x2)
Samsung Lightscribe DVD Drive
NT06-E CPU Cooler
Noctua NF-P12 Vortex-Control 120mm Quiet Case Fan (x2)

First Impressions
Wow. This case looks amazing. Very well packaged and everyone at work agreed it looked like a very good case. When taking it out the box you realise how light this case really is. Overall the first impressions for this are very good.

The Build
Unfortunately, this is where things get a little bleak. This is the third fully PC I have built and second SFF (other one was Shuttle SN25P), but has been by far the hardest build. Taking the case apart is easy enough (although unfortunately not tool-less, and there are a few screws that are integral but if lost would be extremely hard to source and no spares have been supplied), and the instructions are basic but good enough. First thing you notice is how little space you have to work with, but it’s to be expected (although a motherboard tray would be nice).

So the first step is to install the motherboard; easy task right? Well no... After putting the spacers onto the case, it took three attempts to screw the motherboard down without one of them screwing loose underneath the motherboard (and thus forcing me to start again). The next thing I installed was the DVD drive, which thankfully was an easy task. The cooler, which is made by the same company who make the case (which I thought would make it an easy job) was next. The first annoying thing was the cooler didn’t fit. To be fair to Silverstone, the motherboard is probably to blame but still – annoying. So I had to modify the cooler and take the PSU support out before it would fit. Two of the four screws were easy enough to reach but the other two were difficult to get. After several minutes of finger tip tightening of the screws the cooler was in – phew!

The graphics card and ram went in pretty sweetly, as did the PSU (although the cable management was a royal pain in the behind – especially the DVD drive)! So the last bit of kit to go into the case was the hdds. Firstly, the slot that the hdd carriage slots into is very flimsy and while taking the carriage out I managed to twist it. The hdds had to be mounted upside down (even though the instructions didn’t state this) as the extra 3.5” drive plate (which is mounted sideways) doesn’t fit due to the sata cables.

Build Quality
Having spent a fair amount of time with the case I can say overall I was not impressed with the build quality. The aluminium is very thin and flimsy, when the black side panels are on, at the join with the front of the case you can see the silver aluminium chassis, the lack of tool-less build (and silly tiny screws)... It all makes the think the design was based around the philosophy of making something that fits together, rather than something that is easy to work with and with the system builder in mind.

Conclusion
Am I happy with my pc? Yeah I guess I would say so, now that its all built. Would I buy /recommend the same setup to anyone else? Hell no. After having both the Silverstone case and a Shuttle, I find the Shuttle slightly quieter (despite this new machine not having a CPU fan), overall smaller and much easier to fully assemble (as they have done most of it for you :)). I have to say I was disappointed with the CPU cooler (again, felt poor quality / was bent on arrival etc) as well, so in future will be avoiding all of Silverstones products.

Hope this proves of use to someone :)
 
By contrast my SG03 build I did back at the end of last year (November I think) with the same cooler all went nicely.
I wasn't bothered by there being screws. It was a very tight fight as expected and I have to say it is impossible to plug the cables into the dvd drive unless you do it before fitting the powersupply (I found out the hard way) unless you have fingers that bend in odd directions :p
Got a picture of the problem you had with the harddrives, fitting mine fine the right way up and although I haven't got the 3.5" bay fitted about it I can't see anything that would stop it fitting.

Need to dismantle the rig at some point, since there is an annoying vibration coming from the dvd drive, plus I imagine it could do with a good clean.

I'd recommend the case to people, its nice and compact, looks great and the build quality is perfectly acceptable and it makes a fantastic little rig to take to LANParties.


/edit - just took the side of the case off and had a look at the external 3.5 bay position, I can see that it would no doubt be a bit fiddly to get in, but I certainly can't see how the harddrives being turned over would make it any easier.
 
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but I certainly can't see how the harddrives being turned over would make it any easier.
It's because the 3.5 plate isn't just a plate, it has top and bottom (about an inch deep). The SATA connectors on the HDD are near the bottom of the drive (if you look at it face on) which pretty much meet the bottom of the 3.5 plate face on. When you turn the drive upside down, it lifts the connectors about ~20mm which means it misses the plate, but when you install it you have to push the plastic clip end as the screw from the 3.5plate fascia then clips the plastic clip.

As I said, it all shouts (to me) of a poor / rushed design. Will get pictures when I switch the machine off :)
 
i'm sorry to hear you had trouble with your build. I like you purchased an SG-03 and an NT06-E cooler, and mine was bent too! i returned it and picked up this instead:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-028-ZA&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=1395

This cooler was far superior, my temps rarely rise above 37'c.

The only real problem i have inside my case is cable management (the cables are currently loose all over inside the case *shudder*) and thicker hard drives, i.e. those using more than 3 platters, have trouble fitting into the hard drive brackets. Also the case door is a bit flimsy.


Question to the other SG03 owners: do you have your PSU with the fan facing into your case or facing out through the mesh grille?
 
I had to have my PSU with the fan facing into the case to act as a heatsink fan. It seems to work ok - temps seem to hover around 42 (room is pretty warm), 52 when working on a game and 60 when under prime95.
 
PSU with the fan above the cooler (with another fan under the cooler to help the air get through)
Gets so damn toasty though with an overclocked Q6600 in there :p

Imagine if this heat carries on all summer I'll have to change the way it is setup.
 
PSU with the fan above the cooler (with another fan under the cooler to help the air get through)
Gets so damn toasty though with an overclocked Q6600 in there :p

Imagine if this heat carries on all summer I'll have to change the way it is setup.

PinkFloyd what kind of temps are you getting with your OC'ed Q6600 in your SG03? I'm using an E6600, and im at 30'c idle and 45'c load. Plus, what cooler are you using?
 
PinkFloyd: As timefalls has asked, which cooler are you using and what fan did you put undernear (I imagine you are using the NT06-E?)... although not 100% sure I can fit any decent size (90mm+) in mine due to the NB heatsink :/
 
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