which super quiet 120mm fan but with good air presure for HS help

Meridiusuk · 8 Nov 2009 at 16:19

Hi all

going to be building a i pc so that i can push it to 3GHz and i was woundering what fans are the best as i am going to be getting a thermalright mux-120 heatsink for the i5

i want somthing that is quiet as poss buy good to keep the temps down.

any help thanks

liquidex · 8 Nov 2009 at 16:22

Scythe Gentle Typhoons. Best combination of noise and air pressure.

Meridiusuk · 8 Nov 2009 at 18:06

thay only seem to run at 800rpm and have CFM ±10% 28.2 @ 9db not a lot of air very good for silent but not to usre if this would be good for a cpu cooler fan

i just found these

Akasa AK-FN057 Apache Super Silent 120mm Fan 1300 RPM Max airflow 57.53 CFM @ 16db

or

Be Quiet SilentWings Ultra Quiet 120mm Fan rpm 1500 57.00 CFM @ 18.5db

or

Noctua NF-P12 Vortex-Control 120mm Quiet 1300 RPM 54 .53 CFM @ only 19.8 dB(A)

i just dont know what to go for for my heatsink fan cooler or is there anything better

JonJ678 · 8 Nov 2009 at 19:59

You asked for static pressure. The gentle typhoons are excellent for this.

The airflow figure means nothing whatsoever as it isn't blowing air unobstructed. You've rejected the scythe then quoted three fans based purely on cfm and noise. The noise reading is meaningless for various reasons, just ignore it. cfm is different to pressure.

Out of those three the akasa and noctua are approximately equal. Neither will be remotely silent at 12V, either will be quite good at 7V. I'd buy the gentle typhoon.

Greebo · 9 Nov 2009 at 11:16

ANother vote for the Gentle Typhoon (which go to 1800rpm btw not 800rpm)

Here's a good round up showing how static pressure makes a big difference to a fans performance and cfm is not the best way of deciding on the fan.(note that you should not be too worried about the sound readings and should play back the noise video to decide between two different fans)

Also note that some Noctua fans have almost zero airflow once they are restricted.

Gentle Typhoon:

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=4&artpage=4130&articID=936

Max cfm through a radiator is 35cfm @ 62dba and as you can see that the Typhoon comes out tops for performance vs noise through restricted coolers.

Another review here on radiators/coolers showing the Gentle Typhoon as tops:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2009/09/28/what-s-the-best-case-fan/5

Note that even though it comes out tops it's cfm drops by 51% on a radiator/cooler from 61cfm unrestricted to 30cfm.

Also notice how poor of a review the Noctua NF-P12 gets for its actual retsricted airflow and how noisy it is at 32.8dBa compared to it's claimed noise of 19.8dBa.

krooton · 9 Nov 2009 at 11:49

Gentle Typhoons or Akasa Apaches.

The Apaches might be slightly louder at 12V, but shift more air as well, I have mine on a controller, but in all honesty, at 12V I can't hear them over the rest of my system.

Muel · 9 Nov 2009 at 11:59

Sorry to butt in, but can I just ask, what are these Gentle Typhoons like compared to the Xigmatek White LED/Orange Blades fans?

bledd · 9 Nov 2009 at 12:02

I like the Xilence Red Wings

Greebo · 9 Nov 2009 at 12:14

krooton said:
Gentle Typhoons or Akasa Apaches.

The Apaches might be slightly louder at 12V, but shift more air as well, I have mine on a controller, but in all honesty, at 12V I can't hear them over the rest of my system.

The Apaches shift slightly less air unrestricted over the Typhoons however from reviews they appear to be quieter.

Although they have good stated static pressure I have yet to see a cooler/radiator review but they should be good for them.

Although they do look hideous

Greebo · 9 Nov 2009 at 12:19

bledd. said:
I like the Xilence Red Wings

There's always one.

They only measure 36cfm unrestricted compared to 44cfm rated, in reviews so very doubtful that with a cooler/rad they will come close to the 31cfm of the Typhoon since the Xilence don't have the best static pressure.

The Xilence are great low noise case fans and that's it. I had 4 on push pull with my radiator and my two better static pressure replacements out performed them by 3c on idle and 10c on load.

Greebo · 9 Nov 2009 at 12:33

Muel said:
Sorry to butt in, but can I just ask, what are these Gentle Typhoons like compared to the Xigmatek White LED/Orange Blades fans?

Comparable. The Xigmatek are really good performing cooler/radiator fans and I almost bought two of them myself and they were on my shortlist.

marscay · 9 Nov 2009 at 13:01

Gentle Typhoons have probably the best static pressure to price ratio out of any fan out there.

Have 2 of the 1450rpm GT's on my Megahalem which keeps temps with an 920 @ 4ghz ~ 75c with 20x runs of LinX.

Megahalem + GT = win and very low noise......and good price if you look around a bit

Muel · 9 Nov 2009 at 15:10

Greebo said:
Comparable. The Xigmatek are really good performing cooler/radiator fans and I almost bought two of them myself and they were on my shortlist.

Ahh cheers, I'm getting xigmatek 120mm fans for the front and the 140mm version for the roof, but I was wondering what to get for the CPU fan, I'm using a Titan Fenrir with the standard fan running at about 50%, so I was thinking If I get one of these Gentle typhoons and run it at full chat, would it be able to keep my CPU cool enough? Bearing in mind I can go up 12C on my CPU load temp.

Just gets the total DB down a little bit more.

3t3P · 9 Nov 2009 at 15:58

looking at the gentle typhoon blades their increased 'reach' as it were does seem like it would maintain static pressure better than traditional blade design. bearing in mind that fans are terrible for creating static pressure and would not be used in compressors or anything of the sort in domestic/industrial appliances

DavyBoy · 9 Nov 2009 at 16:07

Muel said:
Sorry to butt in, but can I just ask, what are these Gentle Typhoons like compared to the Xigmatek White LED/Orange Blades fans?

I'm not sure how the Xigmatek's compare to these other fans, but I have 3 Xigmatek XLF-F1253 fans fitted to my rad, and they are really good, even spinning at full speed they are fairly quiet.

I have them hooked up to my Scythe Kaze Master Ace, running at 1000rpm, and they are extremely silent.

Prior to using them on my rad, I had 2 of them fitted to my TRUE, and they did an excellent job keeping my o/ced i920 cool.

EsaT · 9 Nov 2009 at 17:47

JonJ678 said:
The airflow figure means nothing whatsoever as it isn't blowing air unobstructed

For consumer/end user none of the advertised figures means anything except RPM and fan size which give somekind hint about airflow performance compared to other similar design fans.

Can you find any correlation between actual measured and advertised airflow?
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article695-page1.html
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article720-page1.html
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article739-page1.html
Also if you ever see specs of fan "family" claiming that say, 50% higher speed version has 100% higher airflow you know they're lying. Without back pressure airflow changes quite precisely in direct relation to fan speed.

Greebo said:
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=4&artpage=4130&articID=936
Max cfm through a radiator is 35cfm @ 62dba and as you can see that the Typhoon comes out tops for performance vs noise through restricted coolers.

Noise measurements definitely aren't very accurate for real use because of distance and graphs telling nothing about annoying noise details...
Airflow again can't be translated into case fan/low impedance heatsink use because of high impedance radiator and measuring method probably isn't very accurate considering problems into which SPCR run with impeller anemometer...
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article734-page1.html

3t3P said:
looking at the gentle typhoon blades their increased 'reach' as it were does seem like it would maintain static pressure better than traditional blade design.

That forward swept blade at least resists tendency of air to try to move centrifugally/radially instead of axially and lack of wide gap before next blade again limits airflows ability to try to slip backwards if there's major back pressure.
And again by looking size of big motor hub/small airflow cross section area you can deduce that in free air/low impedance it can't have high airflow/RPM ratio.
(noise again depends also from bearing and actual airflow so that goes differently)

DavyBoy said:
Xigmatek XLF-F1253 fans fitted to my rad, and they are really good, even spinning at full speed they are fairly quiet.

Which really tells only that you either live in noisy environment or your hearing is on its way to retirement:
For normal design fan 1500rpm is always noisy already because of airflow/turbulence noise.
Then materials give high probability for resonances, and blade trailing edge/motor strut design isn't optimal.

DavyBoy · 9 Nov 2009 at 19:38

My PC is in the living room, and the TV is always on, and there are 2 kids running about as well!!

They are definitely quieter than the case fans in my old Silverstone TJ10.

My hearing is far from perfect, probably from the years of playing guitar at high volumes tbh!

What is quiet to one person might seem loud to someone else though..

Meridiusuk · 9 Nov 2009 at 19:42

So it's best to get the Gentle Typhoon over all 120mm fans for a CPU cooler.

So would a Gentle Typhoon and thermalright umx-120 be about the best for cooling A i5 CPU for sound levels or would a Noctua NH-U12P SE2 Dual Fan be better.

Trying to get a real good cooler which will have good air and silent but be able to keep a i5 pushed to 3ghz cool without sounding like a jet.

So which would be the best combo ?

Thanks

setter · 9 Nov 2009 at 19:58

I use a pair of theese on a TRUE cooler.

http://www.sharkoon.com/html/produkte/luefter/silent_eagle_se/index_en.html?id=2

They feaure a modular cable system that allows them to run at lower voltages from the psu or via pwm. I have them running at 400 rpm via pwm and can barely hear them.

liquidex · 10 Nov 2009 at 04:04

Meridiusuk said:
So it's best to get the Gentle Typhoon over all 120mm fans for a CPU cooler.

So would a Gentle Typhoon and thermalright umx-120 be about the best for cooling A i5 CPU for sound levels or would a Noctua NH-U12P SE2 Dual Fan be better.

Trying to get a real good cooler which will have good air and silent but be able to keep a i5 pushed to 3ghz cool without sounding like a jet.

So which would be the best combo ?

Thanks

Would try and get a 1156 bracket with the Megahalems. Maybe email Prolimatech. The umx-120 looks worse than a TRUE which is comparable to the Megahalems. Definately give the Gentle Typhoons a try though.