OcUK Swift Power Supply

mrteabag · 17 Jul 2010 at 19:55

Anyone have any info on these?
13 Pounds for a psu is mental.They must be rubbish.

Please don't reply to this thread saying Corsair,Antec whatever,I wouldn't dream of using one of these in a build.

RJC · 17 Jul 2010 at 19:57

From the thread further down:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=16965263&postcount=11

Whole thread:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18165112

mjones1 · 17 Jul 2010 at 19:58

I thought OCUK we against selling budget carp, who can blame them at times like this!

Bubba · 17 Jul 2010 at 20:00

I would never touch an expensive power supply again after having a few antecs I realised it just wasn't worth it, this was years ago, now all I use is cheap PSUs.

All our computers in work run 24/7 and never crash, we use £8 unbranded power supplies in them we also use them for all our repairs and never have any problems at all, for my home server which also runs 24/7 with a 70% overclock it is using a £15 evo labs powersupply.

coupe69 · 17 Jul 2010 at 20:07

Bubba said:
I would never touch an expensive power supply again, snip

Puppetmaster · 17 Jul 2010 at 20:09

Bubba said:
I would never touch an expensive power supply again after having a few antecs I realised it just wasn't worth it, this was years ago, now all I use is cheap PSUs.

All our computers in work run 24/7 and never crash, we use £8 unbranded power supplies in them we also use them for all our repairs and never have any problems at all, for my home server which also runs 24/7 with a 70% overclock it is using a £15 evo labs powersupply.

I take it your not using any decent pc with those psus just basic machines?

mrteabag · 17 Jul 2010 at 20:09

Sorry for thread repost :/

Bubba · 17 Jul 2010 at 20:16

Puppetmaster said:
I take it your not using any decent pc with those psus just basic machines?

I have built a quadcore machine using a GT250 with the £15 one and it has had no problems at all, one of the computers in work using the £8 psu is a x2 4400, 2gb of ram with 2 hdds, nothing special but does everything we need in work.

When I had my antec years ago, I ran two computers , one with an antec psu which was about a year or so old, one which used an ancient unbranded thing I had kicking about, both ran 24/7 and from the same power socket in my old bedroom, I came home from work one day and the computer with the Antec psu was dead with a burning smell coming from the PSU, luckily enough it was under warranty but cost me over £20 to post it back which I did not get refunded, got a new psu about 1 month later, this one lasted about a year or so before dieing 1 week out of the warranty, again with the other computer running by its side it still worked fine, antec wanted nothing to do with it, in the end I put the PSU from the other computer into the one that used to have the antec, it lasted a few more years before the system started becoming unstable, probably down to a dodgy motherboard or ram but I ended up just building a new computer from scratch as my brother was using it.

remy87 · 17 Jul 2010 at 20:20

Looking good tbh.
I might snap one of the 450W for my homeserver.
How silent is it?

Boozebeard · 17 Jul 2010 at 20:27

Bubba said:
I would never touch an expensive power supply again after having a few antecs I realised it just wasn't worth it, this was years ago, now all I use is cheap PSUs.

All our computers in work run 24/7 and never crash, we use £8 unbranded power supplies in them we also use them for all our repairs and never have any problems at all, for my home server which also runs 24/7 with a 70% overclock it is using a £15 evo labs powersupply.

It's a bit more complicated than whether the system crashes or not. A cheap power supply is far more likely to break and far more likely to damage other components when it does. It will be less efficient so your electricity bill will be higher. They will likely have much less power on the 12v rails (which most components now a days draw power from) than a good quality power supply advertised at the same watts. The actual power they supply to the components will likely fluctuate more, so if the thing doesn't die and take out the rest of the machine it will be slowly damaging everything inside it because of high ripple.

Having said that I'm probably still going to take a gamble on one of these for an office machine.

Bubba · 17 Jul 2010 at 20:32

Boozebeard said:
It's a bit more complicated than whether the system crashes or not. A cheap power supply is far more likely to break and far more likely to damage other components when it does. It will be less efficient so your electricity bill will be higher. They will likely have much less power on the 12v rails (which most components now a days draw power from) than a good quality power supply advertised at the same watts. The actual power they supply to the components will likely fluctuate more, so if the thing doesn't die and take out the rest of the machine it will be slowly damaging everything inside it because of high ripple.

Having said that I'm probably still going to take a gamble on one of these for an office machine.

Hi, sorry but I just don't buy into that crap, from my experience it just isn't true, I have never had a cheap quality power supply fail and damage components on me, I am sure the OCuk ones have been tested to ensure that they meet certain standards, as do the ones we use in work, mainly evo labs, there are some rubbish power supplies out there and I wouldn't recommend buying a crap power supply unit, but there is nothing wrong with buying a cheap quality power supply unit.

ATIorNvidia · 17 Jul 2010 at 20:40

Bubba said:
Hi, sorry but I just don't buy into that crap, from my experience it just isn't true, I have never had a cheap quality power supply fail and damage components on me, I am sure the OCuk ones have been tested to ensure that they meet certain standards, as do the ones we use in work, mainly evo labs, there are some rubbish power supplies out there and I wouldn't recommend buying a crap power supply unit, but there is nothing wrong with buying a cheap quality power supply unit.

I'm sorry to be rude, but you haven't even the slightest clue what you're talking about. Why don't you 'buy' into it?, the facts are right there, if you tried to load a cheap quality PSU to its rated wattage with the PROPER equipment, then I garuantee the PSU will immediately fail.

Boozebeard · 17 Jul 2010 at 20:48

Bubba said:
Hi, sorry but I just don't buy into that crap, from my experience it just isn't true, I have never had a cheap quality power supply fail and damage components on me, I am sure the OCuk ones have been tested to ensure that they meet certain standards, as do the ones we use in work, mainly evo labs, there are some rubbish power supplies out there and I wouldn't recommend buying a crap power supply unit, but there is nothing wrong with buying a cheap quality power supply unit.

It doesn't matter if you haven't had it happen, you're still increasing the likely hood that it will and it still doesn't mean they aren't damaging your components over time due to high ripple.

Bubba · 17 Jul 2010 at 20:49

ATIorNvidia said:
I'm sorry to be rude, but you haven't even the slightest clue what you're talking about. Why don't you 'buy' into it?, the facts are right there, if you tried to load a cheap quality PSU to its rated wattage with the PROPER equipment, then I garuantee the PSU will immediately fail.

I have already done this and it did the complete opposite of what you said, the expensive PSU died twice in 3 years, while the cheap psu worked fine and went onto replace the expensive one for a few years without problems.

I doubt that these OCuk psus are rubbish, yes they will have their limits but they are a lot cheaper than overpriced antecs etc.

Boozebeard said:
It doesn't matter if you haven't had it happen, you're still increasing the likely hood that it will and it still doesn't mean they aren't damaging your components over time due to high ripple.

I am not talking small scale here, I am head technician for a local computer shop that specializes in laptop repairs, we do laptop repairs for computer shops all over the UK, I know exactly what I am talking about and have years of hands on experience, not just what I read someone mention somehwere on a forum.

mrteabag · 17 Jul 2010 at 20:55

Cheap < Expensive PSU.
SImple as that I'm afraid.
If you are a head technician you should know better tbh,one of those PSU's could take out a whole system.

Bubba · 17 Jul 2010 at 21:08

I have repaired thousands of computers over the years and before working on computers day to day I used to think this about a cheap psu could damage a system, boy was I wrong, I can only recall two occasions where I have had to replace a power supply along with other components and I believe this was due to heat, the case had no case fans and was full of cables that were not cable tied and routed correctly and the system was full of dust.

I am not denying that expensive power supplies are better, but they are overpriced and most users do not need them, a good quality cheap power supply will do just the same job on over 95% of computers.

ATIorNvidia · 17 Jul 2010 at 21:48

Bubba said:
I have already done this and it did the complete opposite of what you said, the expensive PSU died twice in 3 years, while the cheap psu worked fine and went onto replace the expensive one for a few years without problems.

I doubt that these OCuk psus are rubbish, yes they will have their limits but they are a lot cheaper than overpriced antecs etc.

I am not talking small scale here, I am head technician for a local computer shop that specializes in laptop repairs, we do laptop repairs for computer shops all over the UK, I know exactly what I am talking about and have years of hands on experience, not just what I read someone mention somehwere on a forum.

That is just your only personal experience, I am giving you FACTS. You most likely got a few bad apples, what was the Model name of the so called 'expensive' PSU's you bought?

The fact is your pretty little cheapo's cannot output anywhere near their rated wattage, and if you do, they will fry.

When you can test both the expensive PSU and the cheapo with a Load tester/ATE, test the ripple and electrical noise measurements at atleast a 40C temperature,test the voltage stability..... then you can tell me that.

Bubba said:
I have repaired thousands of computers over the years and before working on computers day to day I used to think this about a cheap psu could damage a system, boy was I wrong, I can only recall two occasions where I have had to replace a power supply along with other components and I believe this was due to heat, the case had no case fans and was full of cables that were not cable tied and routed correctly and the system was full of dust.

I am not denying that expensive power supplies are better, but they are overpriced and most users do not need them, a good quality cheap power supply will do just the same job on over 95% of computers.

Correction: It will do the job on 95% of computers that use no where near its rated wattage. (For example, a cheapo generic 800w will work fine on a computer that uses 250w max load).

AgentSm1th · 17 Jul 2010 at 21:52

I build PC's, the PC's I build are not state of the art gaming PC, but ones for the other 90% of the market who are not gaming and thats when these PSU's are fine.

They look like Winpower units to me and I've built an I5 750, ATI 5770, 2x HDD with the 750W Swift PSU ocuk are selling and that machine is going strong 6 months later.

I for one think its great ocuk are targeting other customers and not just hardcore gamers.

ATIorNvidia · 17 Jul 2010 at 21:56

AgentSm1th said:
I build PC's, the PC's I build are not state of the art gaming PC, but ones for the other 90% of the market who are not gaming and thats when these PSU's are fine.

They look like Winpower units to me and I've built an I5 750, ATI 5770, 2x HDD with the 750W Swift PSU ocuk are selling and that machine is going strong 6 months later.

I for one think its great ocuk are targeting other customers and not just hardcore gamers.

Quoted my reply form the other thread:

ATIorNvidia said:
An i5 rig for work usage with a low end graphics will not exceed 200-250W load, a 400W OCZ StealthxStream (best unit of the SXS range) or a CX400W, An Antec EA430 or a Season s12ii-330/380W will be fine and will also be of much better quality.

Even adding a 5770, the max load draw while running Prime/LinX and Furmark will STILL be under 350w load.

AgentSm1th · 17 Jul 2010 at 22:07

Well you can argue with me until your blue in the face, I build systems to sell on, for me these units are ideal and now I can purchase from ocuk.

When I build a PC with a 5970 I shall get a branded PSU, but for anything 5850 or lower I've had no issues building with Winpower PSU's, infact the reliability has been outstanding.