£2000 PC Build for 4K Video Editing

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Hi All,

I am looking for some help building a system for high end 4K video editing in Adobe Premiere CC and After Effects CC.

I would like to stay with mATX as I prefer a smaller system, but am happy to look at other options.

16GB of ram is fine for now, also no mouse, DVD drive, keyboard, monitor or software is needed.

Thanks in advance for your time.
 
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Tricky time at the moment as Thunderbolt motherboard aren't so readily available. A lot of X79 makes sense for 4k (better CPU, more ram) but Thunderbolt only exists on a few select Z87 boards right now, which will be very useful for external RAID arrays necessary (ish) for 4k. Does your budget include any fast storage or is this just for the box?
 
Tricky time at the moment as Thunderbolt motherboard aren't so readily available. A lot of X79 makes sense for 4k (better CPU, more ram) but Thunderbolt only exists on a few select Z87 boards right now, which will be very useful for external RAID arrays necessary (ish) for 4k. Does your budget include any fast storage or is this just for the box?

Thanks for the reply, external storage will be a mini SAS rack.
 
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If you can stretch to £2099.94 this monster is on sale this week

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...newsletter=consumer_general/2014_cw17/bigbox8

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That has a normal i7 4770k, and is prebuilt so probably not as good value for money :P

Updated:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel 4930K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail (BX80633I74930K) £425.99
2 x EVGA GeForce GTX 780 SC ACX Superclock 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (03G-P4-2784-KR) £409.99 (£819.98)
1 x Asus Rampage IV GENE Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 MicroATX Motherboard £229.99
1 x Corsair Professional Series AX 860W '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020044-UK) £139.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £119.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Beast 16GB (2x8GB) PC3-17100C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX21C11T3K2/16X) £109.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 350D Windowed Micro ATX Case - Black (CC-9011029-WW) £94.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £88
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £59.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 24Pin ATX Extension 30cm - sleeved black/red/black £7.49
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin PCIe Extension 45cm - sleeved black/red/black £5.95
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8Pin EPS12V Extension 45cm - sleeved black/red/black £4.99
Total : £2,122.34 (includes shipping : £12.50).



(Added some bling for £115, though it could be knocked off)
 
That has a normal i7 4770k, and is prebuilt so probably not as good value for money :P

Yeah but considering the GPU alone costs about £1100 I didn't think it was that bad a deal, plus everything is water-cooled and warrantied too. But I see what your saying on the CPU though.

That's true about the water cooling, though imo I would go for a better CPU.


Just thought of something though, blower/reference cards would be better for SLI.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel 4930K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail (BX80633I74930K) £425.99
2 x OcUK Geforce GTX 780 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £359.99 (£719.98)
1 x Asus Rampage IV GENE Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 MicroATX Motherboard £229.99
1 x Corsair Professional Series AX 860W '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020044-UK) £139.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £119.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Beast 16GB (2x8GB) PC3-17100C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX21C11T3K2/16X) £109.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 350D Windowed Micro ATX Case - Black (CC-9011029-WW) £94.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £88
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £59.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 24Pin ATX Extension 30cm - sleeved black/red/black £7.49
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin PCIe Extension 45cm - sleeved black/red/black £5.95
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8Pin EPS12V Extension 45cm - sleeved black/red/black £4.99
Total : £2,022.34 (includes shipping : £12.50).

 
Hi OP,

I in no way mean to undermine any of my fellow speccer's but i feel they have some-what missed the point, ever-so-slightly (non-sarcastically).

As you said you are going to be editing and rendering 4k videos, so the main focus is editing speed.

If you don't already i seriously recommend looking into GPU rendering for your videos, it is far quicker than standard CPU rendering. Depending you have a good enough GPU.

So where have my fellow speccer's fallen down?
While they are right to load this rig with lots of GPU power no one has taen into account that the programs you use do not recognise Multi-GPU setups, SLI/Xfire.

So with the spec above (with 2 x 780's) you'll only be rendering with 1 GPU, shame.

So i suggest something like this:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780Ti WindForce 3x OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-N78TOC-3GD) £539.99
1 x Intel 4930K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail (BX80633I74930K) £425.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Beast 32GB (4x8GB) PC3-17100C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX21C11T3K4/32X) £249.95
1 x Asus Rampage IV GENE Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 MicroATX Motherboard £229.99
1 x NZXT Hale Power 90+ 1000W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £139.99
1 x Parvum Systems S2.0 MicroATX Case - Black with White £129.95
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £119.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £88
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £59.99
1 x Corsair AF120 Quiet Edition Low Noise High Airflow - Dual Pack (CO-9050002-WW) £22
1 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £22
Total : £2,037.42 (includes shipping : £8.00).




I have allowed a big enough PSU for you to go SLI if the software begins to support it or you need it for gaming.

The case is a personal choice but it is small and stunning and can be used to custom watercool if that ever floats your boat.

The 4930k is a great idea, but what has failed to be understood by the specs above is it really needs Quad-channel RAM (4 RAM sticks) to function correctly. That is whyt my spec has 32Gb, for future needs. :)

What do you think?
 
Hi OP,

I in no way mean to undermine any of my fellow speccer's but i feel they have some-what missed the point, ever-so-slightly (non-sarcastically).

As you said you are going to be editing and rendering 4k videos, so the main focus is editing speed.

If you don't already i seriously recommend looking into GPU rendering for your videos, it is far quicker than standard CPU rendering. Depending you have a good enough GPU.

So where have my fellow speccer's fallen down?
While they are right to load this rig with lots of GPU power no one has taen into account that the programs you use do not recognise Multi-GPU setups, SLI/Xfire.

So with the spec above (with 2 x 780's) you'll only be rendering with 1 GPU, shame.

So i suggest something like this:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780Ti WindForce 3x OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-N78TOC-3GD) £539.99
1 x Intel 4930K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail (BX80633I74930K) £425.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Beast 32GB (4x8GB) PC3-17100C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX21C11T3K4/32X) £249.95
1 x Asus Rampage IV GENE Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 MicroATX Motherboard £229.99
1 x NZXT Hale Power 90+ 1000W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £139.99
1 x Parvum Systems S2.0 MicroATX Case - Black with White £129.95
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £119.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £88
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £59.99
1 x Corsair AF120 Quiet Edition Low Noise High Airflow - Dual Pack (CO-9050002-WW) £22
1 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £22
Total : £2,037.42 (includes shipping : £8.00).




I have allowed a big enough PSU for you to go SLI if the software begins to support it or you need it for gaming.

The case is a personal choice but it is small and stunning and can be used to custom watercool if that ever floats your boat.

The 4930k is a great idea, but what has failed to be understood by the specs above is it really needs Quad-channel RAM (4 RAM sticks) to function correctly. That is whyt my spec has 32Gb, for future needs. :)

What do you think?

Thanks for the comprehensive reply, I did think two cards would be of little use in my application.

How would the 780ti card compare to something like the AMD FirePro W7000 Professional Graphics Card?

Also is it worth me looking at the Xeon E5?

Thanks
 
I've found something that may be fun for you to read: http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-Professional-GPU-Acceleration-502/

It has the TITAN referenced rather than the 780ti but i still think its relivant as the 780ti is basically a 'baby TITAN', it is very very simular.

The 780 Ti isn't on that support list. The 780 is though, and the Titan.

How would the 780ti card compare to something like the AMD FirePro W7000 Professional Graphics Card?

Also is it worth me looking at the Xeon E5?

Thanks

The W7000 appears on the above support list. It's really hard to compare consumer and professional cards, but the W7000 is around AMD 7950/7970 performance in games. If this translates to Premiere then the 780 will be a little bit faster.

Definitely worth looking at the Xeons. As far as I know, the GPU only does filters, so how much you should spend on CPU/GPU depends on how many filters you're using. If you're mostly chopping and arranging, then rendering, go for more CPU power and less GPU power (and fast I/O).
 
You would be surprised how little IO rendering actually uses. At 1600p when im rendering footage from an array of 3 2TB F4's onto a RAID 5 array of 5 2TB F1's Sony vegas is using 20-25MB/s and nothing out of the ordinary on iops. This is rendering from DXtory footage using lagarith, into AVC 50mbit/s.

Although, this could just be a case of ifmy cpu was faster then it would use more IO? In which case my ageing i7 930 @4ghz is holding it back...which is why im looking upgrade lol.

Have you actually ever rendered footage out in 4k? Its going to take a long time whatever you have, barring dual/quad cpu (1600p takes ~50% longer than 1080p).

Have you considered a dual cpu setup? As above, if you are just chopping and arranging footage mainly it may be better to skimp on GPU and get more cpu power
 
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