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please someone help spec a micro comp for my son

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hi guys my boy has an xbox one but also loves to play games like league of legends and warcraft etc etc the old lappy he has is now struggling to run them and a new laptop is just to expensive for us.

he does have a nice tv with multiple hdmi in and a spare shelf under it so im thinking maybe i could build him a nice small micro atx system with enough power to run those kind of games and not the big high end games and couple this with a wireless keyboard and mouse.

prob is i have been out the building game now for like 6 years lol so not sure what is what

any help the cheaper the budget the better really
 
i know you said cheaper is better, but what segment are you aiming at ie, how much have you in mind to spend?

need os? must keyboard/mouse be wireless?
 
Do you know the spec of the old laptop? Will give us a better idea of what performance might be expected (one persons struggling is anothers runs perfectly. This will give us a reference point in performance chat)
 
ah sorry guys for the lack of info

he wont need a keyboard or mouse as i have one spare

current laptop he is using is a old acer 4920

spec is intel core duo 1.6 processor
2 gig ram
amd mobilty radeon x2400 gfx processor which is damn poor lol

even on low settings its bad lol

i wasnt thinking something with huge huge power just something that will run decent and nice at a good spec

was thinking around 250 mark i know thats not much but would not need operating system

i was trying to think of the name of those little acer units already to go ?

other than that i was basing it on

case with psu 40 ish
mobo 40 ish
cpu 40 ish
ram 40 ish
hard drive 40 ish
gfx card 40 ish
dvd drive 20 ish

am i being unreasonable with those figures but if can get even cheaper be better
 
this intel would be a nice entry level spec

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI HD 7770 GHz Edition 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Elite Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TPKD38G1600HC11DC01) £55.99
1 x Seagate SSHD ST500LM000 500GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM £49.99
1 x Intel Pentium K Anniversary G3258 Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £49.99
1 x Asus H81M-E Intel H81 (Socket 1150) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £39.95
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020046-UK) £29.99
1 x Zalman T2 Plus Mini-Tower USB 3.0 - Black £19.99
1 x Raijintek Aidos Direct Contact CPU Cooler - Black £14.99
1 x Asus 24x DVD±RW DRW-24F1ST SATA ReWriter - Black (Retail) £11.99
Total : £346.37 (includes shipping : £11.25).



if you don't want to spend that much, then an amd apu build could be an alternative
(also changed the storage from sshd to hdd)

YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD A10-6800K Black Edition 4.10GHz (Socket FM2) APU Richland Quad Core Processor (AD680KWOHLBOX) £89.99
1 x TeamGroup Elite Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TPKD38G1600HC11DC01) £55.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £39.95
1 x Gigabyte F2A88XM-DS2 AMD A88X (Socket FM2+) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £38.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020046-UK) £29.99
1 x Zalman T2 Plus Mini-Tower USB 3.0 - Black £19.99
1 x Raijintek Aidos Direct Contact CPU Cooler - Black £14.99
1 x Asus 24x DVD±RW DRW-24F1ST SATA ReWriter - Black (Retail) £11.99
Total : £315.37 (includes shipping : £11.25).

 
You'd probably have to purchase some second hand components.

My advice would be get a second hand quad core (AMD Phenom 2 or Intel core 2 quad minimum), 4GB of RAM and a HD7770.
 
thanks tamzy some food for thought there, how do these amd processors fair to say something like the new built in chipsets on the intel boards

jon smith i think you might be right in your thinking that second hand might be the way to go but then maybe i could just pick up a whole system ready to go if i keep my eyes out .

lol just how much juice do these stupid online games need lol
 
if you're comparing amd apu to intel cpu without a gpu, then the amd apu will give better framerates cuz they have a beefier igpu.
slap on a gpu (like the 7770) onto the intel cpu and you're laughing. it'll run games much better than the amd apu rigs.

also as you get MM access, it would be an idea to get some stuff 2nd hand.
eg: ram, gpu, psu...i would say a 1st gen i5 cpu+mobo, but they didn't like matx builds back then.
 
hey guys wonder if you can give me some advice on this

have been offered a hp 8100 slimline with the following spec and genuine win 7 with key

core i5 650 2 core 4 threads processer
4 gig ram
320 gig hard drive
dvdrw drive
usual audio and network features built in on mobo with onboard gfx

i can get this for like 110 pound

it also takes decent size gfx cards but obviously the power supply would need changing BUT i was thinking of maybe sticking this in it

KFA2 GeForce GTX 750Ti OC "Low Profile" 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card - Retail (75IGH8HX9KXZ) which is 99 pound at ocuk

therfore total build would be just over 200

is that card ok as it does not need to be connected to power supply and would the overall system be pretty decent for the online games ?
 
bigjonnyauk said:
hey guys wonder if you can give me some advice on this

have been offered a hp 8100 slimline with the following spec and genuine win 7 with key

core i5 650 2 core 4 threads processer
4 gig ram
320 gig hard drive
dvdrw drive
usual audio and network features built in on mobo with onboard gfx

i can get this for like 110 pound

it also takes decent size gfx cards but obviously the power supply would need changing BUT i was thinking of maybe sticking this in it

KFA2 GeForce GTX 750Ti OC "Low Profile" 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card - Retail (75IGH8HX9KXZ) which is 99 pound at ocuk

therfore total build would be just over 200

is that card ok as it does not need to be connected to power supply and would the overall system be pretty decent for the online games ?
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JonSmith said:
it'd be fine, although if you're replacing the PSU anyway I'd get an r9 265x/270 2GB as they are noticeably faster than the 750ti.
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It's an SFF PC, so you'd need a low profile video card, so very limited options moving forward. I'd spring for something at least ATX and not a business class PC with limited PSU
 
Just to note, the new Warcraft expansion in November is bringing some pretty hefty engine updates. The game in beta is capable of loading all cores on an FX-8 and because the game is now able to use modern CPUs efficiently it's no longer CPU bound which means it can push the GPU harder, among the graphical updates MSAA has been removed and FXAA/CMAA added with SSAA to follow.

Anyway here are the new system requirements from November:

Minimum System Requirements:
Intel Core2 Duo E6600 or AMD Phenom X3 8750
2 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT, ATI Radeon HD 4850 or Intel HD Graphics 3000

Recommended Specifications
Intel Core i5 2400 or AMD FX-4100 or better
4 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470, ATI Radeon HD 5870 or better
 
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