Am I missing a Graphics Card with this build?

PCNoob1222 · 21 Feb 2015 at 07:31

1 x AMD Kaveri 7700K 10 Compute Core APU w/ Radeon R7 Graphics (4 CPU + 6 GPU Compute Cores) - Retail £109.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Savage Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (HX324C11SRK2/8) £46.99
1 x Gigabyte F2A88XM-DS2 AMD A88X (Socket FM2+) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £43.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £37.99
1 x Antec VPF350 350W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £34.99
1 x Xigmatek Echo Midi-Tower - Black £23.99
1 x LG 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM GH24NSC0.AUAA10B £13.99
Total : £325.44 (includes shipping : £11.25).

cheesyboy · 21 Feb 2015 at 07:33

You don't need a graphics card, as the CPU has one onboard.

It's not powerful enough for playing the most demanding games with satisfactory performance, but fine for general computing and older/indie games

cheesyboy · 21 Feb 2015 at 07:41

For gaMing, swap the CPU out for an Athlon 750k (or one of its newer equivalents) and spend £80 or so on a graphics card. A 260x, would be sufficient, or even a 250x if you need to go cheaper

PCNoob1222 · 21 Feb 2015 at 07:47

cheesyboy said:
You don't need a graphics card, as the CPU has one onboard.

It's not powerful enough for playing the most demanding games with satisfactory performance, but fine for general computing and older/indie games

You mean the amd 7700k? Because I've been watching an unboxing on one and it only comes with a cooler :confused:

cheesyboy · 21 Feb 2015 at 07:52

There's both a GPU core and a CPU core tucked inside the 7700. It's quite powerful as far as onboard graphics go, but not really good enough for gaming.

Off the top of my head, I think the gpu is somewhat equivalent to an AMD r7 730. Maybe a 740.

PCNoob1222 · 21 Feb 2015 at 07:57

cheesyboy said:
For gaMing, swap the CPU out for an Athlon 750k (or one of its newer equivalents) and spend £80 or so on a graphics card. A 260x, would be sufficient, or even a 250x if you need to go cheaper

Ohhhh I see what you're saying, so you think if I got rid of the AMD 7700k and bought a cheaper cpu and ALSO a graphics card, you think I could get better performance?

cheesyboy · 21 Feb 2015 at 08:03

definitely. Those Athlons are basically the apu 'A' chips with the gpu lasered off. A 250x will give much better gaming performance than the onboard gpu. 260x better still

PCNoob1222 · 21 Feb 2015 at 08:18

cheesyboy said:
definitely. Those Athlons are basically the apu 'A' chips with the gpu lasered off. A 250x will give much better gaming performance than the onboard gpu. 260x better still

Can I not crossfire the 250 with the 7850k ? How will my performance be then?

stulid · 21 Feb 2015 at 08:18

Type 7700K into youtube and you can get results of it playing various games.

You only wanted to play at 720P which is easy for it.

PCNoob1222 · 21 Feb 2015 at 08:24

stulid said:
Type 7700K into youtube and you can get results of it playing various games.

You only wanted to play at 720P which is easy for it.

But wouldn't the 7850k make for better performance?

stulid · 21 Feb 2015 at 08:29

Yes, but you had a budget that was tight?

PCNoob1222 · 21 Feb 2015 at 08:32

stulid said:
Yes, but you had a budget that was tight?

Yeah, but I'm thinking about exceeding my budget a little to get the best performance, I think i'm going to stick with what you'd put together for me, but go with the 7850k instead, and then see how that runs, if i'm satisfied i'll leave it, but if I decide I wan't more, I may crossfire it with the 240/250 r7 series

stulid · 21 Feb 2015 at 09:33

There comes a point where you may as well switch to a cheap CPU and a discrete GFX card.

cheesyboy · 21 Feb 2015 at 10:39

An 860k Athlon with a r7 250x is a lot better for gaming than a 7850k. And a little cheaper.

For gaming, the 7850k is such a bad choice, don't waste your money.

Given the price of the 860k, though, you would be better advised to switch to the AM3+ platform and a £60 fx4300, or go Intel. And I would pay a little extra for a 260x gpu (it's a lot better than a 250x). You really wouldn't regret it.

Deus Ex · 21 Feb 2015 at 11:44

up budget, intel and dedicated cooler. Give you better longevity.

Emlyn_Dewar · 21 Feb 2015 at 12:02

That 7700 isn't a great price at all, you can pick up the 7800 for cheaper if you look around, and it's got the better GPU...

pandem0nium · 21 Feb 2015 at 12:05

If you're upping the budget anyway, look at what I specced.

pentium k + r9 270 is the best bang for buck you're going to get.

PCNoob1222 · 21 Feb 2015 at 15:06

stulid said:
There comes a point where you may as well switch to a cheap CPU and a discrete GFX card.

So you think the 860k Athlon with a r7 250x will run my games better than a 7850k? and will the 860k Athlon and r7 250x fit the build you did for me?

stulid · 21 Feb 2015 at 15:08

The 860K will fit the board.

PCNoob1222 · 21 Feb 2015 at 15:11

stulid said:
The 860K will fit the board.

Nice, and (noob question incoming) I'm guessing the r7 250x will fit in my case? And again, will it run my pc better than the 7850k ?