1080 the Founders Edition

ironcross13 · 8 May 2016 at 23:06

Guys the Founder Edition is the same as the reference 1080
Think people are getting mixed up

Here's the deal, plain-and-clear:

Every single instance of “Founder's Edition” can be replaced with the word “Reference,” using previous-gen nomenclature. There is not one difference in its market positioning. They are synonymous. NVidia has replaced its “Reference” name with “Founder's Edition.”
There are not two GTX 1080 models made by nVidia. Only the “Founder's Edition” exists; there is not a cheaper card made by nVidia than the $700 Founder's Edition, which ships first.
Just to be clear: nVidia is making one official GTX 1080 and one official GTX 1070 model.
The “Founder's Edition” is not specially binned.
The “Founder's Edition” is not pre-overclocked.
The “Founder's Edition” uses the new industrial design and cooler from nVidia. Historically, this is what we would call the “reference cooler.” The cooler is more-or-less identical to the previous reference models. It's got vapor chamber cooling, a VRM blower fan, and a large alloy heatsink under the shroud. There is a backplate on the GTX 1080 Founder's Edition.
This card is not "limited edition," despite its name that would indicate as much, and will run production through the life of the GTX 1080 product line.

The Founder's Edition will cost $700. The MSRP is $600 – so vendors like MSI, EVGA, ASUS, et al. can enter market with cards cheaper than nVidia's own, throw their own coolers on them, and overclock them differently

http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/...080-founders-edition-and-reference#!/ccomment

JediFragger · 8 May 2016 at 23:15

For info, the 980 had a reference cooler but was missing the vapour chamber part...

Obviously the Ti and TX both had it

pgi947 · 8 May 2016 at 23:19

So founders edition = early adopters tax?

As it sounds like this is all that will be available at launch

Jono8 · 8 May 2016 at 23:20

Says who? That guy? Sounds like he is implying Nvidia will sell the founders edition directly and that this is "usual". That isnt the case and has never been the case.

Have Nvidia ever sold a card directly and not through their board partners?

Mei · 8 May 2016 at 23:22

i thought they said something about better power delivery on founder card
tho ive been drunk since then so i duno where i read that
but that made me wonder better power delivery than what???

anyway yeh
EAT!
Early Adopter Tax!

Mauller · 8 May 2016 at 23:26

Huang himself said that the 'Founders Edition' cards will overclock better than the standard ones. Hence why people speculate that the 'Founders edition' are special binned chips.

Since why would just the founders editions clock better? and why the need to differentiate and mention that? It all points to them being special binned parts.

tommybhoy · 8 May 2016 at 23:33

pgi947 said:
So founders edition = early adopters tax?

As it sounds like this is all that will be available at launch

If true it'll work for them, lets face it, it usually does because the Nv brand is such a strong brand with a simply massive user base.

Bet you AMD are kicking themselves that they never thought of that first, they could have got an extra $100 for the ref 290's, they would have been quids in!

Razor Time · 8 May 2016 at 23:37

I want the Dave Edition.

JediFragger · 8 May 2016 at 23:45

tommybhoy said:
Bet you AMD are kicking themselves that they never thought of that first, they could have got an extra $100 for the ref 290's, they would have been quids in!

Free earplugs??

God those coolers were pap

Perfect_Chaos · 8 May 2016 at 23:51

So the Founders Edition is a better clocking card, but with the stock cooler and is louder than custom cooler cards?

Stupid idea.

lumik · 8 May 2016 at 23:53

Perfect_Chaos said:
So the Founders Edition is a better clocking card, but with the stock cooler and is louder than custom cooler cards?

Stupid idea.

No founder edition is just reference card.
700USD for 1080
450USD for 1070

JediFragger · 8 May 2016 at 23:54

Perfect_Chaos said:
So the Founders Edition is a better clocking card, but with the stock cooler and is louder than custom cooler cards?

Stupid idea.

Tbf they're really popular due to them exhausting the majority of the heat produced outside of the case. But yes, they're louder than AiB cards!!!

SkeeterUK · 8 May 2016 at 23:56

http://videocardz.com/59718/nvidia-gtx-1080-gtx-1070-founders-edition-explained

Another explanation of what the founder ed is.

Edit - Ah videocardz info is from the OP website. :/ Ah well. lol.

Perfect_Chaos · 9 May 2016 at 00:02

lumik said:
No founder edition is just reference card.
700USD for 1080
450USD for 1070

Another site says that they will clock better. Must be a bit of false info going around. Wouldn't pay more just for the stock cooler myself, may be decent for people running multiple cards i guess.

queamin · 9 May 2016 at 00:07

It could be more over clocking headroom with the better cooler.

jommy999 · 9 May 2016 at 00:24

somehow the way Jen-Hsun said on the conference that their founder edition will have better overclocked ability . ( but can Founder edition or Reference card can have better overclocked than custom cards ? )

NirK · 9 May 2016 at 00:42

jommy999 said:
somehow the way Jen-Hsun said on the conference that their founder edition will have better overclocked ability . ( but can Founder edition or Reference card can have better overclocked than custom cards ? )

He did also say the 1080 is twice as powerful as a titan x etc. so maybe it is true or maybe not I don't know lol. I wish they would just do normal presentations.

triss · 9 May 2016 at 00:46

NirK said:
He did also say the 1080 is twice as powerful as a titan x etc. so maybe it is true or maybe not I don't know lol. I wish they would just do normal presentations.

Twice as powerful in one particular thing . Dont expect it to be twice as powerful for everything

Radox-0 · 9 May 2016 at 00:57

Tbh refrence cooler was not terrible at least not on Titan x. It did get loud but with a decent fan profile could work okay. I imagine on this card with a considrably lower power usage the blower style fan should be able to run quieter then it did for the Titan x / 980Ti More so if they use the vapour chamber which they skimped out on for refrence style GTX 980's.

Legend · 9 May 2016 at 00:59

ironcross13 said:
Guys the Founder Edition is the same as the reference 1080
Think people are getting mixed up

Every single instance of “Founder's Edition” can be replaced with the word “Reference,” using previous-gen nomenclature. There is not one difference in its market positioning. They are synonymous. NVidia has replaced its “Reference” name with “Founder's Edition.”

Hang on, so if I want a reference card I have no choice but to buy the Founder's Edition, which is going to cost the most (whatever the $699 translates to in £, possibly £600)? If that's true then by definition the market position of the reference card has indeed changed.