HDR Gaming Monitors

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So, when can we expect these?

There is already lots of buzz this summer with the latest televisions coming with HDR support.

I'd especially like to see true 10-bit colour monitors make it more into the mainstream, especially seeing as AMD is hyping HDR with their upcoming Polaris graphics cards and the same goes for Nvidia - which I hope means we will see the non-workstation graphics cards (i.e. consumer variants) allow you to use 10-bit color with Nvidia, with AMD cards you can already do it.

With that said, I'd like to see the following monitor:

27" 2560x1440
IPS
HDR support with true 10bit color (None of this 8-bit dithered or similar crap)
<=5ms response time (GTG)
FreeSync (Full range 30-144Hz, none of this limited crap like 30-90Hz)

Technically the above almost exists in the form of the Eizo Foris FS2735 - http://www.eizoglobal.com/products/foris/fs2735/

But I'm still itching for HDR arrival :D


What do you guys think? Any dream specifications you are waiting for to drop ££ on?
 
Have to say I'm a bit blasé when it comes to HDR - maybe I'll be more impressed if I was actually sitting down playing with it at home on my desktop maybe. But right now kind of indifferent.
 
21:9 curved, 120Hz+, 3840x1600 resolution (2:4:1), G-Sync, HDR, IPS... I won't budge from the X34 for anything less. Suspect I'll be waiting a while though! :)
 
I'm really hoping for 34" curved, properly QC'd and free from defects. First company to pull this off gets my money.
 
Legend said:
21:9 curved, 120Hz+, 3840x1600 resolution (2:4:1), G-Sync, HDR, IPS... I won't budge from the X34 for anything less. Suspect I'll be waiting a while though! :)
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I'm with you

I've had numerous 27" 1440p monitors over the past few years, even with HDR they are getting a bit long in the tooth now. Now that graphics cards are almost at a point where we can game at higher resolutions, I think it's about time for some very tasty monitors to make an appearance.
 
Any news about HDR monitor's at Computex?

32" IPS 4K 120Hz HDR Monitor with 30-120 Freesync range is what I want.

Ultimate one would be the above but OLED instead of IPS :)
 
GFX-Kid said:
Any news about HDR monitor's at Computex?

32" IPS 4K 120Hz HDR Monitor with 30-120 Freesync range is what I want.

Ultimate one would be the above but OLED instead of IPS :)
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Ultimate and perhaps necessary. As I keep explaining to people, you are very unlikely to see any LCD HDR monitor. Hence why they aren't just popping up all over the place. They simply don't have the required contrast performance and the sort of zonal backlight solutions used for HDR TVs are not practical for a PC monitor.
 
Oops I perhaps should have posted here instead of starting a new thread, but I'm also interested in HDR monitor news.

Dell showed off something incredible with their UP3017Q back in January (http://www.anandtech.com/show/9923/dell-demonstrates-30inch-4k-oled-display) but I think that's a bit beyond both me and GPU capabilities just at the moment.

I would like to see a 24-27" 1440p OLED with a similar refresh rate though.
 
HDR is certainly not something worthwhile switching monitors for lol.

If its featured in your next monitor purchase then yeah ok, but you dont go changing monitors for it.
 
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Whats the difference between Quantum Dots and LCD?
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It depends what you mean by 'Quantum Dots'. The technology in its current iteration simply employs Quantum Dots as part of a backlight for LCDs to widen the colour gamut. The future direction is to use Quantum Dots as a self-emitting light source rather than relying on a backlight. Just like OLED, but non-organic. And hence capable of the sort of contrast ratios required to make a go of HDR - far beyond what LCD monitors are capable of.
 
Samsung has a TV that is using Quantum dots, 4k hdr, 49", and is not that expensive as an Oled.
 
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Samsung has a TV that is using Quantum dots, 4k hdr, 49", and is not that expensive as an Oled.
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You mean the Samsung UE49KS8000? Yup, that just uses a Quantum Dot backlight. See above and don't get suckered in by marketing buzzwords. Samsung have longer term ambitions to use Quantum Dots as a self-emitting light source and do away with LCD technology, but they haven't done so yet.
 
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There's plenty of 10-bit colour monitors out there, but to get the combo of that and all the gaming whizz, probably going to be OLED before we get anything decent.


Forever waiting for OLED.

Then again, what does HDR mean for gaming? I mean, devs will create what's right for the ambience of the game, where colours will tailored. HDR for live TV is different, it's showing you a truer representation of colours filmed. Though for films, i suppose that's the same for gaming. HDR won't be for every situation. Except contrast ratio and black blacks of course!
 
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i recall when wide gamut was all the rage quite a few years ago and nearly every monitor being released was using a wide gamut backlight (CCFL back then). where are they all now? After a while, people realised they don't want or need wide gamut and actually it made colour management complicated and was not really well suited to the content they were using. That's why pretty much all the non-colour professional / graphics displays now are standard gamut sRGB. it was expensive and not actually what people wanted at the end of the day. Wide gamut sounds good on paper and is nice for marketing, but personally i don't see much benefit in it for TV's or general use monitors. You end up with a more "colourful" display (i'm talking about tV's here) so they look good in the showroom, but when you realise that most shades are just oversaturated and unrealistic, and that skin tones etc look odd, it's not great. Quantum Dots help bring the cost of wide gamut backlights down, so if you are needing a wide gamut display for your specific applications and content it makes them more affordable which is of course good news. but the same issues are there as they were before for the majority of users in my opinion, they just aren't what people really need for their content.

Same thing with 10-bit colour depth. again it sounds like it should be a massive benefit and improvement. the reason it's not readily available or widely bothered with by manufacturers it that it's expensive to implement most of the time, and in fact it's very hard to achieve for the end user anyway. maybe if more mainstream/gaming graphics cards start to support 10-bit output it might find its place more, but you still need a 10-bit workflow which is hard (and expensive) to achieve. even then, i don't think most users would notice any practical difference between that and an 8-bit display, certainly for gaming, multimedia, general use etc. Hell, i doubt many people would spot any practical difference between a good 6-bit + FRC and a trye 8-bit display either nowadays, providing the panel tech is the same. It has its place for image professionals, medical displays etc sure, but in my opinion it's a lot of marketing without much real benefit to the normal user.

HDR is interesting as a development although initially i see it more of a TV technology than a desktop display technology. as PCM2 has said, it can't be implemented on current monitors for various reasons. you need very high luminance output to meet the standards, and also extremely low black depths (and therefore very high contrast ratios). not even current VA panels (which offer the highest CR available) can achieve the specs neccessary for proper HDR implementation. OLED makes it possible, but those are likely to be few and far between for a long time in the desktop monitor market, and even when they are available, very expensive. HDR is more geared towards multimedia content, movies etc and so is certainly a great development for TV's. but desktop monitors don't really have the same target audience or usage requirements and so it's probably going to be a fair while before we see investment in HDR there i think.
 
And the question comes to, is the quantum dot samsung hdr tv viable option for gaming with a 1080 and fast sync?
 
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