1 or 2 Loops

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Hi all.

Im planning my computer i will be making in the next couple of months.
Plan is an i7 4790k, plus 2 x GTX970s in SLi.
I'm not sure weather to have 1 loop cooling the graphics cards and processors, or to run 2 separate loops 1 for graphics cards and 1 for the processor and maybe add more water blocks to the motherboard & ram?
I will be overclocking the processor aswell.

Thanks in advanced

Happy new year :)
 
I'm building a similar project and am going for single loop but with overkill on the rad area in my 900D. Have you got the extra money to throw onto a separate pump and a late enough case to tube appropriately?
 
My hope is to use a corsair 750D, i really like that case, i did consider the 540, but i like the height of the 750D.

Cheers for your replies.

I guess if it doesnt make much difference, I should just have the 1 loop with enough rads to keep it all cool.
 
I guess it will be easier to bleed air out, some people use 2 pumps anyway when theyre cooling the mobo ram gpus and cpu, i ran all mine off 1 d5 when i cooled everything, but i never had flow meters so i couldnt tell you haw much it effected the flow. All seemed ok.
 
How would you have 2 pumps in 1 loop?

Yep, in series, so you have a reservoir connected the "in" of the first pump, then the "out" of the 1st pump connected to the "in" of the 2nd pump and then out to the rest of the loop

It means you can use 2 cheaper pumps (like EK DCP 4.0's) and get better results than using e.g. a single D5
 
Imo watercooling is way overkill for 90% of situations performance wise. Its very very nice sound wise and looks the nuts and is well just awesome. However in terms of performance its very overkill unless benching so i would go one loop. Its certainly not going to restrict your 24/7 overclock.
 
Yeah the loops ive seen with 2 reservoirs in like i said were flashy ones, people just showing off, i ran a setup with 4xram coolers, 2 mosfet coolers, NB & SB coolers and 2 GPU full cover blocks and it ran fine with 1 pump. Since i never tried 2 loops i cant say how much better that would perform though, ya need sumone who has run dual loops to tell ya i guess.
 
With the same number of components, a single loop will out perform a dual loop as heat from the components under stress is lost through all the radiators, where as in dual loops obviously some of your blocks are isolated from some of your radiators. The highest efficiency you can aim for in a dual loop when distributing radiators is to give a proportionate amount of radiator to the amount of heat dumped in the loop. If by a huge co-incidence that the radiator distribution matches the heat dumped (which varies depending on varying stress) in the same ratio, than the efficiency will be that of a single loop of all those components. It goes without saying that the higher the heat (in Watts) needed to be distributed by the radiators in that loop, the higher the equilibrium temp on the cores of the components.

Here is an example of a simple typical single loop and double loop

Single Loop:
One CPU 140W
Two GPU 240W
480mm worth of radiator

So 660W is being more or less evenly distributed between 480mm of radiator as water temperature is more or less a constant through the loop (especially between radiators). So 165W is being lost through each 120mm of radiator when temperature of components have leveled out.

In a dual loop with a 360 and the GPU's in one loop, and the 120 and CPU in the other.

In the GPU loop 520W is distributed among 360mm of rad, so 173w per 120mm of radiator, while the CPU loop sits at a lower 140w. So the CPU sits cooler but both GPUs sit hotter.

There is no advantage in this configuration. People argue that it allows you to clock certain components higher for benching but synthetic benchmarks usually only put specific components being benched under stress, so if i were to run a CPU benchmark, the GPUs would stay idle and the single loop set up would provide a whopping 480mm for just CPU cooling, while the dual loop still only has 120mm, as it is isolated with the other 240 going to waste as the components in that loop are idle.

In gaming, different components are in varying degrees of stress depending on whats going on, on screen. In this situation, single loops are obviously more efficient at distributing heat, as single loops cater better for the hotter component, which will be the most important one (the one under most stress).
 
hi i have just completed a dual loop set as you were thinking of, it came out very costly as i wanted an external set up for gpus and internal for cpu mb. it looks awesome in my opinion but as i said costly and time consuming.
external,
i have a 420 monsta push/pull using aerocool ds fans matching my pc colours desk mounted and pump res along side linked to gpus/980sli idle temp 21c and silent,pump controll via mb cpu header.
internal,
1x240 monsta base push/pull drawing air from outside as i put an air brick inline with case vents 140 front push/pull 140 60mm mounted at rear push/pull 360 27mm top push/pull full block mb using 13/19 pipe EK-BAY RES Dual DDC 3.2 PWM al ek fittings running near silent using aquaero 6 fan controller.
i will post pics shortly in watercooling forum.
 
I think pumps come with rubber mounting bolts dont they? Mine did anyway, basically a bolt each end thats joined by rubber in the middle, with a d5 on full speed ya cant hear it unless you rest your ear on it :)
 
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