£1000 build advice please.

NeilF

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First of all, I plan on building an entire new machine, but I'll use my existing 7870XT graphics card. It's not exactly a bottle neck :)

Goal:-
1) I want the machine to be fairly cool and quiet. Hence even getting the PMW version of the cooler!
2) I'd plan on overclocking the i7 to 4.4->4.5. I know an i5 is cheaper, but I figure maybe the i7 might get better used in games in years to come.
3) Aiming fairly hi-spec like I did with my Q6600 which has lasted me for 6yrs. If this can last nearly that long (with a GFX card update), perfect!

Questions would be:-
1) I've gone with 16GB of 1600mhz CL9 memory. From what I understand the memory speed plays no part in overclocking the CPU? So 2400mhz memory and CL11 is not really an advantage? And you certainly wouldn't notice it in real life usage?
2) Gone for a Noctua DH14. It's unfortunately fairly ugly, but I want quiet usage and guarantee a bit of clearance for the RAM etc. I think I'd want to keep away from liquid cooling to keep things simply and reliable.

Any advice/suggestions welcome :)



YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4790K 4.00GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £257.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan RED 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLD316G1600HC9DC01) £125.99
1 x MSI Z97 Gaming 5 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £106.99
1 x Phanteks Enthoo Pro Mid Tower Enthusiast Case with Window £89.99
1 x EVGA SuperNova G2 750W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £89.99
1 x Toshiba 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 64MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA300) HDD £79.99
1 x Crucial MX100 256GB SATA 2.5” 7mm SSD + 9.5mm Adapter (CT256MX100SSD1) £79.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £77.99
1 x Noctua NH-D14-2011 Dual Radiator CPU Cooler with PWM Fans £64.99
1 x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) £8.99
Total : £982.90 (includes shipping : ).






EDIT: Don't think that version of the Noctua DH14 will fit an 1150 socket :( I'd have to get a regular DH14 without PMW fans!
 
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YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H-BK - Devil's Canyon Core i7 4790K CPU & Motherboard Bundle **£35 Saving** £365.98
1 x Kingston HyperX Beast 16GB (2x8GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (HX324C11T3K2/16) £129.95
1 x EVGA SuperNova G2 750W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £89.99
1 x Phanteks Enthoo Pro Mid Tower Enthusiast Case with Window £89.99
1 x Crucial MX100 256GB SATA 2.5” 7mm SSD + 9.5mm Adapter (CT256MX100SSD1) £79.99
1 x Toshiba 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 64MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA300) HDD £79.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £77.99
1 x Raijintek Themis Black Heatpipe CPU Cooler PWM - 120mm £19.99
Total : £943.46 (includes shipping : £8.00).



Ive come up with that.

The cooler should clear the RAM if you use slots 2+4.

Motherboard has a 5 year warranty and a free upgrade within 3 years - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18631511


If you dont like it and want to keep the red theme,

YOUR BASKET
1 x EPIC BUNDLE: Intel 4790K, Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 7, Kingston 16GB 2400MHz Kit, Superflower 750W PSU & FREE STUFF!! **£50 SAVING** £558.97
Total : £568.57 (includes shipping : £8.00).

 
^^ Why the small(er) CPU cooler? Why not just get a DH14 or Raijintek Tisis?


And again, I'm no expert, but I'll swear people generally say CL9 1600mhz memory is just as good as CL11 2400mhz?
 
NeilFawcett said:
^^ Why the small(er) CPU cooler? Why not just get a DH14 or Raijintek Tisis?
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Need to make sure you clear the tall ram, it will if you use slots 2+4.

If you use a huge (wider cooler) then it may hit them.

Edit,

I've actually been a bit forgetful and forgot about this,

YOUR BASKET
1 x silverstone heligon sst-he01 cpu cooler £44.99
total : £53.69 (includes shipping : £7.25).



its reduced in price, its a top cooler and has different fan modes (quiet or loud for performance) it also clears all ram in the slots.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/silverstone/heligon_he01/5.html
 
stulid said:
Need to make sure you clear the tall ram, it will if you use slots 2+4.
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Understood, but why the eagerness to get 2400mhz memory, when the 1600mhz CL9 memory I listed is standard size so would allow the DH14 or Raijintek Tisis?
 
NeilFawcett said:
Understood, but why the eagerness to get 2400mhz memory, when the 1600mhz CL9 memory I listed is standard size so would allow the DH14 or Raijintek Tisis?
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Faster= better, Haswell (and DC, same thing) like fast RAM.

Besides,

I have given you an option of a cooler that is huge, reduced in price by £15, quiet or loud (you decide) and fits all RAM in the slots.

Or,

A bundle that is red, low-profile RAM, freebies and a good PSU.
 
stulid said:
Faster= better, Haswell (and DC, same thing) like fast RAM.

Besides,

I have given you an option of a cooler that is huge, reduced in price by £15, quiet or loud (you decide) and fits all RAM in the slots.

Or,

A bundle that is red, low-profile RAM, freebies and a good PSU.
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OK... I wasn't sure about the CL9 1600mhz vs CL11 2400mhz memory speeds, but this is interesting - http://wccftech.com/haswell-works-high-speed-ram-benchmarks-show-ddr31600-mhz/


So, if I got the HyperX it would definately fit with the DH14 - http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=compatibility_ram_gen&products_id=34&lng=en :)
 
I dont know about the NH-D14, it looks big, the Silverstone I can guarantee does 100% fit as one of the heatsink stacks is thinner than the other (have this side facing the RAM).

Actually just looked at that Noctua link and it has a fat red X next to the HyperX Beast.
 
stulid said:
I dont know about the NH-D14, it looks big, the Silverstone I can guarantee does 100% fit as one of the heatsink stacks is thinner than the other (have this side facing the RAM).

Actually just looked at that Noctua link and it has a fat red X next to the HyperX Beast.
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The DH14 is generally consider one of the best air coolers around I believe, from both a temp and noise point of view.

As for ram fitting with it...

Kingstone HyperX Genesis - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-182-KS

...get a nice
compatibility_yes.jpg
with it - http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=compatibility_ram_gen&products_id=34&lng=en



And once again, thanks for the advice re getting 2400mhz over 1600mhz - http://www.hardwareheaven.com/2011/12/kingston-hyperx-genesis-quad-channel-2400mhz-ddr3-review/5/
 
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That RAM fits for sure.

Alpenfohn K2, Phanteks PH-TC14PE, Noctua NH-D14, Silverstone HE01, Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3.

All top coolers and quiet etc.

You cant go wrong with any of them:)
 
OK, so looks like the shopping list is:-



YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4790K 4.00GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £257.99
1 x Kingston HyperX 16GB (2x8GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Red (HX24C11BRK2/16-OC) £139.99
1 x MSI Z97 Gaming 5 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £106.99
1 x Phanteks Enthoo Pro Mid Tower Enthusiast Case with Window £89.99
1 x EVGA SuperNova G2 750W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £89.99
1 x Toshiba 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 64MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA300) HDD £79.99
1 x Crucial MX100 256GB SATA 2.5” 7mm SSD + 9.5mm Adapter (CT256MX100SSD1) £79.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £77.99
1 x Noctua NH-D14-2011 Dual Radiator CPU Cooler with PWM Fans £64.99
1 x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) £8.99
Total : £996.50



+ A Noctua NM-i115x kit to allow the D14 SE2011 to fit onto the 1150 socket! (So £5 expense to get the D14 with upgraded Noctua PMW fans :))





stulid said:
That RAM fits for sure.

Alpenfohn K2, Phanteks PH-TC14PE, Noctua NH-D14, Silverstone HE01, Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3.

All top coolers and quiet etc.
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I far prefer the look of the Phanteks as obviously the D14 is somewhat pig ugly and I could get the Phanteks to colour match my case. eg: white & red... But the D14 generally gets the better reviews as regarding fitting it and noise levels, plus has more ram clearance, so D14 it is I guess.
 
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