1055t to i7 Haswell? Talk me in or out of it

[linktoinsanity]

no in any game i have seen benched there is next to nothing in performance in games including bf3. a lot of people actually turn off ht becuase of issues ingame sometimes causing stuttering .

people on here have benched it going from a i5 3570k to i7 3770k fps difference was less than 1 fps.

99.9 percent of people will not notice anything whatsoever.

Read what he said again, then re-answer.

He said while recording his gaming it helps. He added while encoding it makes a difference, but when gaming the difference is negligible.

 

[Gripen90]

I have AMD Phenom II X6 [email protected] and Core i5 3570 non-K build both with 8GB Ram and a GTX 660 and both have their weaknesses and strengths.

When I do my encoding and video editing for 720p or 1080p the 1090T is for more pleasurable to work with since it doesn't struggle that much, also I'm able to play e.g Crysis 3 while I have a video file being convertet or rendered in the back round, because I might as well play a bit while waiting.

If I try doing this all this at the same time on the Ci5 3570 the FPS cave in ingame and the game is mostly unplayable. However in a pure gaming environment where I have nothing running in the background them the Ci 5 3570 clearly makes a decent margin of difference in performance in it's favor.

For the daily office, internet, gaming machine where you don't do multiple tasks at once then I'd go for the Ci5 3570.

However if I'm thinking of an all round multitasking that can pull of everything at a decent overall performance and experience, then I'd pick my 1090T any day as the workhorse.

This also lead to as why my main rig is a socket 2011 system with a ci-3930K since I wan't the best of "both" worlds in one but with high performance.

 

[arknor]

It's amazing how long the x6 cpu's have managed to last and people thought the extra cores were a gimmick.

As I said before consoles having slow 8 core cpu's next gen will benefit x6 cpu's massively as surely all dev teams are going to have to start properly multi-coring games efficiently if they want to pull every bit of performance from next gen games

 

[Nuclear Fusion]

no in any game i have seen benched there is next to nothing in performance in games including bf3. a lot of people actually turn off ht becuase of issues ingame sometimes causing stuttering .

people on here have benched it going from a i5 3570k to i7 3770k fps difference was less than 1 fps.

99.9 percent of people will not notice anything whatsoever.

Sure, in games it makes little difference, but you made the statement that HT doesn't benefit in anything. As I said before, if you do screen recording whilst gaming like I do, it does help out a fair bit. As can be seen here, it does help out with things like encoding (look at the X264 2nd pass difference) quite a lot. As previously, if you purely game without screen capture, then there is little reason to get the 3770k over the 3570k, but the 3770k's HT does lend itself nicely to the other tasks I mentioned.

 

[Drangueos]

I see lots of people saying that if you are running Xfire/Sli you should go for the 3770k, but I really don't know why.

anyway I have a 3770K and I'm happy with it

 

[arknor]

I see lots of people saying that if you are running Xfire/Sli you should go for the 3770k, but I really don't know why.

anyway I have a 3770K and I'm happy with it

yea I remember that review site not so long ago that took a an SLI gaming rig and played with the clock rate and cores and it made hardly any difference because modern cpus are so over powered compared to games.

I think the only noticeable difference was when they added yet another GPU

 

[Wucked]

no in any game i have seen benched there is next to nothing in performance in games including bf3. a lot of people actually turn off ht becuase of issues ingame sometimes causing stuttering .

people on here have benched it going from a i5 3570k to i7 3770k fps difference was less than 1 fps.

99.9 percent of people will not notice anything whatsoever.

I've found BF3 to benefit from HT, not much in terms of max fps, but definitely minimum fps and fps drops are reduced with HT on. Switching HT on and off on my 920 there is a noticeable difference.

HT also helps fps indirectly by providing more resources for background apps. Browsers, teamspeak, OBS, winamp... Whatever you happen to have running in the background, HT helps mitigate the impact these apps have on the game you are running.

 

[arknor]

Okay I finally upgraded from a 1055t @ stock to a 4670k @ 4ghz

I get almost double the FPS in games like world of tanks that only use one core. ( I guess the majority of mmos aren't very good at offloading tasks to other cores either)
windows feels slightly more snappier but only a tiny bit.
Most modern games that run great on a 1055t saw around a 10% fps boost I'm using a 7850 @ 1ghz.

So unless you play games that don't multicore like some of the f2p games I play then I wouldn't bother and you might as well wait for next gen or see what amd come out with

 

[mattius1989]

You were never going to be CPU limited on a 7850 with a 1055T.

When you get a better graphics card you will be glad you made the jump.

 

[arknor]

You were never going to be CPU limited on a 7850 with a 1055T.

When you get a better graphics card you will be glad you made the jump.

thread limited on a 1055t though so if a game doesn't multicore pretty well you will end up slightly cpu limited.

No plans on buying a better graphics card my 7850 is still chugging along fine maxed out in pretty much any game and theres not really anything worth upgraded to unless you spend well over 400 quid

 

[Bromhead]

Even now the reviews are out I am still unsure whether to upgrade. May stick with the 1055t another year and see what Steamroller has to offer next year.

 

[eddiew]

In fairness if the current rig is bugging you, then either an IB or Haswell i7 will probably beat it, definitely for single thread performance. Haswell is kinda hotter than people expected, but it's also slightly better on clock for clock and isn't really any worse I think

I went from a Phenom x4, which I think has the same 1-4 thread performance to your 1055T, to an i5 2500K and the leap was enormous. Unless you're maxing all cores all the time, I'm sure you'd get quite a jump by going Intel

 

[JGStonedRaider]

Okay I finally upgraded from a 1055t @ stock to a 4670k @ 4ghz

I get almost double the FPS in games like world of tanks that only use one core. ( I guess the majority of mmos aren't very good at offloading tasks to other cores either)
windows feels slightly more snappier but only a tiny bit.
Most modern games that run great on a 1055t saw around a 10% fps boost I'm using a 7850 @ 1ghz.

So unless you play games that don't multicore like some of the f2p games I play then I wouldn't bother and you might as well wait for next gen or see what amd come out with

How's BF3 for you now? Dammit it Ark, you make have just sealed the deal for me. I give it 2-3 months before I can no longer holding off the upgrade itch. 960T unlocked to 6 cores, you have done me well.

 

[arknor]

I don't play BF3 anymore but I never had any issues with it when I was on a x6 1055t so I doubt theres much of an fps boost there.

The most disappointing thing for me is game loading times seem exactly the same as before, I expected the much faster cpu to at least give me a boost there but I guess my SSD is the limiting factor