105w TDP setting worth it

[TheGodlyGecko]

Hello,

Is the 105W TDP setting in bios worth turning on for a 9700x? I am assuming that it's a setting to increase the power cap of the chip for 65w.

Does it offer a Sizable boost in performance for gaming?

 

[alec]

Check out 9700X PBO results in

In short by itself 105W doesn't do much. Higher multicore speeds for productivity, almost nothing for gaming.
With additional curve tuning and higher boost clock its slightly better

 

[WARburton]

Hello,
Is the 105W TDP setting in bios worth turning on for a 9700x? I am assuming that it's a setting to increase the power cap of the chip for 65w.
Does it offer a Sizable boost in performance for gaming?

monitor what your CPU dose in games. dose it boost? dose it hit the 65w cap? do you have the cooling needed for extra power

if you fond your self hitting the 65w cap and you have an ok cooler, i would use PBO to set the 105w limit and do a little curve tuning

 

[TheGodlyGecko]

I see thank you both, seems it's no really worth it. 1% gain seems kinda pointless for just under double the power cost.

I have plenty cooling and power to offer but I don't see any point from the information provided by that video.

Thanks again!

 

[Tetras]

I see thank you both, seems it's no really worth it. 1% gain seems kinda pointless for just under double the power cost.

My impression is that it probably wouldn't be double the power cost in gaming at least, 'cos the CPU doesn't seem to need the power budget, but I haven't seen any benchmarks about that.

 

[GeorgeStorm]

Yeah it's a power limit not a power target as far as I'm aware, so it would just mean the TDP won't limit performance, but as others have said there may not be thatmmuch extra performance regardless especially for gaming as it's mostly heavy multicore workloads that have the heaviest load and therefore most likely to hit the TDP limit and have to throttle in some way.

 

[wunkley]

Not worth it for gaming, but is for productivity/ benchmarks!

I got a 9700x and new AM5 build about a month ago. Switching from having intel for years, I've spent the last month learning a fair bit about Ryzen and undervolting/ PBO curve and shaper overclocking, and I think the 9700X is such an underrated processor!

Out of the box it's ok, but with some tuning it's a beast. I also think (for once in my life) I got a 'golden sample' as I can run very high negative PBO (37 with curve and shaper combo) and therefore really low volts and temps. The default 65W setting in the Bios will actually run at up to 88W in reality, but most games with my tweaks don't run over ~65W and ~65 degrees max as a result and a constant all core boost of 5540Mhz. Pretty sure with this and my 6400 tuned Ram 1:1 setup I'm besting a 7800X3D.

I found this video very very useful and informative and it actually persuaded me to get a 9700x instead of a 7800X3d, or 9800X3d. I'll maybe look at the next round of AM5 X3D chips, but probably not....

 

[Zeebedy]

I run my 7900X from the TDP of 170W to the ECO mode 65W and apart from some multi core performance, the gaming aspect of it, is not really affected.