10600K 5GHZ

HardStroke · 23 Dec 2020 at 23:04

im seeing people online hitting 5GHZ on all cores with really low voltages (compared to mine) of 1.3-1.33
i cant get it stable at 5GHZ on all cores at 1.37
i really have no idea why
specs:
10600K
Gigabyte Vision G
Corsair H100X
corsair lpx 2X8 3600 18-22-22-42 (2 kits, 32GB total)
right now im running it on 4.8GHZ all cores
1.3v
llc on normal
turbo power limits are disabled (max was 129w(???) i see people hitting 180w and even 200w!!)
downclocked my ram to 3200MHZ CL16-18-18-38 (from 3600 18-22-22-42, 4 sticks of 8)
vccsa and io on 1.2v
ive tried 50,50,49,49,49,49 on 1.335v, got it stable at 72c max but when im playing forza the game still crashes
any ideas?
my silicon cant be that bad
but on the other hand, i get insta BSOD if i have 5GHZ on all cores and voltage below 1.355

Hakanese · 24 Dec 2020 at 03:04

You could have bad silicon, I have a 10700k, I can't break 5.1ghz 0avx all core without going to 1.49V
To be fair not everyone is getting the voltages you're seeing on the internet.
I only use Asus motherboards, so I can't help you that much.
I did find a decent video on overclocking with gigabyte bios, but one thing that jumps out is your llc setting.
I would also say try again with your core ratio, but use the AVX offset and keep it at 4.8ghz as you have it stable there.
IE: All core 49
AVX offset 1
Just found a vid, hope it helps

Rroff · 24 Dec 2020 at 04:15

There can be many reasons - getting all the ancillary voltages right can matter as much as vcore and sometimes a particular chip just doesn't have far to go or even the motherboard just isn't up to it - I've also even had instances where 2 of the same model motherboard resulted in different overclocks with the same CPU.

HardStroke · 24 Dec 2020 at 09:58

Hakanese said:
You could have bad silicon, I have a 10700k, I can't break 5.1ghz 0avx all core without going to 1.49V
To be fair not everyone is getting the voltages you're seeing on the internet.
I only use Asus motherboards, so I can't help you that much.
I did find a decent video on overclocking with gigabyte bios, but one thing that jumps out is your llc setting.
I would also say try again with your core ratio, but use the AVX offset and keep it at 4.8ghz as you have it stable there.
IE: All core 49
AVX offset 1
Just found a vid, hope it helps

ok ill try it now
i also saw Silicon lottery's results on overclocking a 10600K to 5GHZ
all cores on 5GHZ and a voltage of 1.3

HardStroke · 24 Dec 2020 at 17:34

Hakanese said:
You could have bad silicon, I have a 10700k, I can't break 5.1ghz 0avx all core without going to 1.49V
To be fair not everyone is getting the voltages you're seeing on the internet.
I only use Asus motherboards, so I can't help you that much.
I did find a decent video on overclocking with gigabyte bios, but one thing that jumps out is your llc setting.
I would also say try again with your core ratio, but use the AVX offset and keep it at 4.8ghz as you have it stable there.
IE: All core 49
AVX offset 1
Just found a vid, hope it helps

ive tried it now
the second i ran prime95 my cpu spiked to 95c and the voltage jumped to 1.48
any ideas?

Hakanese · 24 Dec 2020 at 18:12

That's on the board's auto voltage?
My cpu cooling is a massively redundant watercooling loop. But I'd dial the voltage back. Personally for me I won't put core voltage above 1.40 but that's just my choice. I only pushed the voltage that high out of curiosity. I run my cpu at 5ghz at 1.33v.
I've come to terms with having a duff overclocking chip.
Prime95 isn't too relative to actual real world usage. For the majority of users hammering your cpu with the avx options on is just torturing your cpu

HardStroke · 24 Dec 2020 at 22:46

Hakanese said:
That's on the board's auto voltage?
My cpu cooling is a massively redundant watercooling loop. But I'd dial the voltage back. Personally for me I won't put core voltage above 1.40 but that's just my choice. I only pushed the voltage that high out of curiosity. I run my cpu at 5ghz at 1.33v.
I've come to terms with having a duff overclocking chip.
Prime95 isn't too relative to actual real world usage. For the majority of users hammering your cpu with the avx options on is just torturing your cpu

i really dont know why its pumpin 1.48v at the cpu
core clock was 4.8GHZ on all cores, thats my normal OC
4.8GHZ on all cores and voltage is 1.3, llc is on normal and in the last c20 and c23 runs that i did the voltage was 1.248 and temp didnt go above 69c
really weird
personally im really afraid of going above 1.37v since i dont want to fry my cpu (i know its pretty low for comet lake and in general but still) as my 10900K/11900K upgrade is planned for 4-5 years from now, not right now and if ill kill 10600K ill actually go and buy the cheapest 10100f ill find
i think the problem here is only on boot and a couple on seconds after it
because underload my vcore doesn't even get close to 1.3 when im on 4.8GHZ on all cores
its just really really weird
when i did 50,50,49,49,49,49 on 1.32v and normal llc it was stable on c20 with voltage around 1.29-1.3 and temp maxed out at 74c
but forza for example wasn't stable

Hakanese · 24 Dec 2020 at 23:01

Well gaming is the best way to check your system is stable for gaming, up your voltage by 0.005 increments until Forza is stable 1.305 etc.. takes time to dial in an OC
My methodology is run with everything at stock, get a base idea of clock boosts, then start at 1.35 vcore and adjust the ratio until it won't pass 10 minutes of Prime. then adjust voltage until it passes.
The one guy who I do trust about overclocking is Buildzoid, he has a 2hr guide on an aorus board and a 10700k, may help you out with questions, and explanations on tweaking.
I suck trying to explain stuff

And Happy Holidays mate

HardStroke · 24 Dec 2020 at 23:14

Hakanese said:
Well gaming is the best way to check your system is stable for gaming, up your voltage by 0.005 increments until Forza is stable 1.305 etc.. takes time to dial in an OC
My methodology is run with everything at stock, get a base idea of clock boosts, then start at 1.35 vcore and adjust the ratio until it won't pass 10 minutes of Prime. then adjust voltage until it passes.
The one guy who I do trust about overclocking is Buildzoid, he has a 2hr guide on an aorus board and a 10700k, may help you out with questions, and explanations on tweaking.
I suck trying to explain stuff

And Happy Holidays mate

ive actually seen this video about a week after i bought my new trio
this guide is probably the best one ive seen as well as Hardware Lens's one
i did some testing my self, literally the first boot of my system was with all cores set to 4.8GHZ and voltage on auto (just to get a baseline on the votage)
after i got an understanding of the voltage behavior i started playing with it and with the core ratio
my baseline is this:
4.8GHZ all core
1.3v
llc on normal (test each and everyone al the way up to turbo, figured that everything above normal just causes unnecessary heat)
vccsa and io on 1.2v
ram situation is kinda complicated
i have 2 LPX 3600 18 kits, one e-die and one b-die
ive played with the b-die and got is insanely tight with the secondary timings and i changed the primary from 3600 18-22-22-42 to 3800 17-21-21-41 (freq as well) since i already gained some boost in performance
but the e-die kit wasnt really feeling those timings so i just dialed that back to 3600 but 17-21-21-41 (trrd_S on 8 and tfaw still tight at 24, didnt really mess with the other ones but i should)
i guess ill try to get a stable 4.9GHZ on all cores

Hakanese · 24 Dec 2020 at 23:52

Well I am running 5ghz with -1 avx. it's the best I can do without putting in too much more power to get meh gains