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10700k to 13700k

Mr Mcgoo

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So i have just purchased a 13700k (£299) to upgrade from a 10700k. I game at 1440p 90fps gsync and in most games i have no issues with the 10700k. However, hunt showdown 1896 and helldivers 2 really struggle at 1-2 of my 10700k cores are hitting 100% causing fps drops. Hoping paired with my 4080 super i will see a large increase in smoothness. What does everyone else think?
 
Did you buy a new motherboard and memory too? I don't believe your Z590 supports the 13700K.

If you purely game you'd have been better off going AM5 with a 7800X3D.
 
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First thing I would do is make sure your bios is fully up to date as there is a number of issues with the 13/14th gen CPUs

EDIT - As mentioned above, the 10700K is LGA1200 and the 13th gen is LGA1700 so you would need a new board (Different Sockets). These boards do come in DDR4 as well as DDR5
 
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Gray and Ed are 100% correct.

Additionally, I would have expected the 10700K to be fine for gaming but hey, it might be showing its age.

The fact that only 2 cores are at 100% makes me think that it might be a windows OS issue not making full use of all the cores. I’d have expected all cores to be used under a stressful game.

The 7800X3D would also have been an amazing purchase.
 
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Gray2233 said:
Did you buy a new motherboard and memory too? I don't believe your Z590 supports the 13700K.

If you purely game you'd have been better off going AM5 with a 7800X3D.
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I forgot to add i also got the gigabyte z790 aorus elite ddr4.
ED209 said:
First thing I would do is make sure your bios is fully up to date as there is a number of issues with the 13/14th gen CPUs

EDIT - As mentioned above, the 10700K is LGA1200 and the 13th gen is LGA1700 so you would need a new board (Different Sockets). These boards do come in DDR4 as well as DDR5
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Already plan to do this for the reason you mentioned :)
JollyJamma said:
Gray and Ed are 100% correct.

Additionally, I would have expected the 10700K to be fine for gaming but hey, it might be showing its age.

The fact that only 2 cores are at 100% makes me think that it might be a windows OS issue not making full use of all the cores. I’d have expected all cores to be used under a stressful game.

The 7800X3D would also have been an amazing purchase.
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All cores are being heavily hit at between 70-100% but 2 cores frequently hit 100% causing fps drops.
 
Gray2233 said:
I don't think that the 10700K was much (if any) faster than the 9900K from back in the day, so I could see it holding back a 4080S to some extent in fairness.
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It is the same cpu :)
JollyJamma said:
Fair. I would have still tried a fresh OS install first but hey.
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Already done this :)
ATIorNvidia said:
Have to remember 10th gen is just Skylake with a few extra bells and whistles, which is going on ~10 years old at this point!
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Very true.
 
hunt showdown has a shooting range that's set in one of the maps so i can use that. i can run without an fps cap and see if i can max my gpu to 100% which i know i can't with my 10700k in that game. Could also try 3dmark and see if my gpu score increase now that i will have pci-e 4.
 
So i have an issue with my new 13700kf. No matter what i set vcore to, it won't apply. If i set adaptive to 1.2v is sits at 1.4v. if a set 1.1v it sits at 1.4v. If i set auto vcore and set 1.2v it sits at 1.35v and same again no matter what vcore i set, it sits at 1.4v for adaptive and 1.35v for auto. Any help?
 
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So i have an issue with my new 13700kf. No matter what i set vcore to, it won't apply. If i set adaptive to 1.2v is sits at 1.4v. if a set 1.1v it sits at 1.4v. If i set auto vcore and set 1.2v it sits at 1.35v and same again no matter what vcore i set, it sits at 1.4v for adaptive and 1.35v for auto. Any help?
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I thought buildzoid said in one of his videos that if you have Intel defaults enabled, you can't change the vcore because it loses the mitigations, or something along those lines, so I wonder if that is what is happening here.
 
So i spent the weekend trying to figure out the issue. turns out the default ac and dc loadline is incorrect and in my case was set to 0.9ohms ac and 1.1ohms dc. The dc is controlling the vid and ac controls the voltage, well in layman's terms. after figuring the correct impedance or at least as best we know so far, i got the voltage down to 1.2v 100% load with the vid matching at 5.3 p-core 4.2 e-core i can go lower but most games are ok and others not so much :)
 
Mr Mcgoo said:
So i spent the weekend trying to figure out the issue. turns out the default ac and dc loadline is incorrect and in my case was set to 0.9ohms ac and 1.1ohms dc. The dc is controlling the vid and ac controls the voltage, well in layman's terms. after figuring the correct impedance or at least as best we know so far, i got the voltage down to 1.2v 100% load with the vid matching at 5.3 p-core 4.2 e-core i can go lower but most games are ok and others not so much :)
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Can you share what your ac and dc ohms settings are? now?

as much as i've watched and read the explanations, it still confuses me.
 
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