10850K or wait for 1190K?

[Gunslinger]

This is a very valid thread for me right now, been helping a friend build a new machine, and we've been having this very discussion. The cost/value of the i9 10850K makes it a very very enticing proposition if we buy new, although we have decided if he can wait that we should get a new z590 board.

Only thing i did see mentioned above was reference to the new boards and PCIe 4, that is the only thing i could see as an argument for waiting for/or getting the 11th gen CPU's.... because even with a new z590 board, if you're using a 10th gen CPU you're not going to get PCIe 4

 

[Alex h]

This is a very valid thread for me right now, been helping a friend build a new machine, and we've been having this very discussion. The cost/value of the i9 10850K makes it a very very enticing proposition if we buy new, although we have decided if he can wait that we should get a new z590 board.

Only thing i did see mentioned above was reference to the new boards and PCIe 4, that is the only thing i could see as an argument for waiting for/or getting the 11th gen CPU's.... because even with a new z590 board, if you're using a 10th gen CPU you're not going to get PCIe 4

This is something im pondering aswell as got to do a build thinking of waiting for z590 boards also hopefully the intel 2.5 lan issue might be solved on z590

 

[Gunslinger]

This is something im pondering aswell as got to do a build thinking of waiting for z590 boards also hopefully the intel 2.5 lan issue might be solved on z590

oh, i need to go and look at that, i wasn't aware of the issue you mention, that might need to be factored into my board selection for the build, as some have both intel gigabit and the newer 2.5

 

[Alex h]

oh, i need to go and look at that, i wasn't aware of the issue you mention, that might need to be factored into my board selection for the build, as some have both intel gigabit and the newer 2.5

Yeh i only found out the other day thank god i was dithering as that would have been my luck its the 2.5 gig thats having issues i believe tberes 3 types out of it and onky one of them works properly

 

[Alex h]

oh, i need to go and look at that, i wasn't aware of the issue you mention, that might need to be factored into my board selection for the build, as some have both intel gigabit and the newer 2.5

Heres a link

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw2l-Zp6vwsMnUypJ_J9vm6P&cshid=1612739190093

 

[Gunslinger]

thanks, appreciate that, i was working my way through various links, reading if it can affect the other controllers as well.

The more i read, the more i think waiting for the z590 boards will be the right move, but not for the 11th gen cpus

 

[Alex h]

thanks, appreciate that, i was working my way through various links, reading if it can affect the other controllers as well.

The more i read, the more i think waiting for the z590 boards will be the right move, but not for the 11th gen cpus

Yeh thats what im thinking aswell

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

I'll be building a second machine very soon and have been pondering something similar, although for me it's 11900k or stick with a 3600 and wait for next gen.

 

[Tinkers2004]

i was in the same boat and bought the 10900k instead, that is what i wanted originally but was always out of stock. Just managed to get one as I think the 10 cores will be better for me in the programs that i use. I have also managed to get it running at 5.3Ghz all core 1.29V

 

[Alex h]

i was in the same boat and bought the 10900k instead, that is what i wanted originally but was always out of stock. Just managed to get one as I think the 10 cores will be better for me in the programs that i use. I have also managed to get it running at 5.3Ghz all core 1.29V

What cooler you useing mate and what are load temps like thanks

 

[Tinkers2004]

never about 84 under full load in intel extreme utility benchmark. Running on a Kraken x72 360mm AIO. First time I have ever been lucky with a CPU. That was for benchmarking run it at 5.2Ghz all core at 1.24V never hits above 73

 

[Alex h]

never about 84 under full load in intel extreme utility benchmark. Running on a Kraken x72 360mm AIO. First time I have ever been lucky with a CPU. That was for benchmarking run it at 5.2Ghz all core at 1.24V never hits above 73

Thanks mate much appreciated ive got a 360 aio aswell so hopefully it will cope

 

[Tinkers2004]

Thanks mate much appreciated ive got a 360 aio aswell so hopefully it will cope

I built my son a new computer for Christmas and built it using the 10850K using a dark rock pro 4 air cooler his can do 5.1 all core at 1.325v and runs in the low 80's under full stress load

 

[Tinkers2004]

Just for reference the MB i use is the Aorus Z490 Master, and my Son is using the Aorus Z490 Ultra

 

[Alex h]

I built my son a new computer for Christmas and built it using the 10850K using a dark rock pro 4 air cooler his can do 5.1 all core at 1.325v and runs in the low 80's under full stress load

Thats good to hear aswell what board are you useing

 

[Alex h]

Thats good to hear aswell what board are you useing

Ignore the answer came before the question lol

 

[Dave2150]

Hello. My question. Is any sense to buy now 10850K or wait for 11900K? But i already bought mboard Z490. So i am asking,thx.

100% wait for the 11900k. It's got a huge IPC increase. The majority of games and apps don't use more than 4-6 cores, so IPC is still king.

You also get AVX-512 support, something more applications will make use of down the line.

 

[Tinkers2004]

100% wait for the 11900k. It's got a huge IPC increase. The majority of games and apps don't use more than 4-6 cores, so IPC is still king.

You also get AVX-512 support, something more applications will make use of down the line.

Definitely will depend on price, it isn't looking to good from what I have heard so far, I picked up a 10900K last week for £445, I heard they will be upwards of £550. In my opinion they are not worth that extra money with two less cores. They should have ditched the GPU in the chip and gone more cores, if they had done that I would have been buying the 11900K.

 

[Alex h]

Just for reference the MB i use is the Aorus Z490 Master, and my Son is using the Aorus Z490 Ultra

Thats the boards ive looked at along with msi ace getting a master for my amd aswell

 

[Dave2150]

Definitely will depend on price, it isn't looking to good from what I have heard so far, I picked up a 10900K last week for £445, I heard they will be upwards of £550. In my opinion they are not worth that extra money with two less cores. They should have ditched the GPU in the chip and gone more cores, if they had done that I would have been buying the 11900K.

Intel is building them on 14nm, a tried and tested process. I think Intel will be extremely competitive on price, as they're in dire need of a big PR win.