120Hz Monitor

Antony101

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Okay, so I have a GTX 680 and some games I play get well in excess for 60 FPS.

I need a new monitor as my current one doesn't have a VESA mount and I need them wall mounting for extra space.

So, should I get a 120Hz monitor, why should I and what reasons are there for not getting one?

I know BenQ and ASUS both make them, which would be the best one to get?

I play almost all types of PC games so genre isn't a problem.
 
basically 120hz = maximum of 120frames per second can be displayed.

if your monitor is 60hz and your getting 80fps your monitor is only able to show 60 of them on the screen each second.

which I think is one of the reasons for screen tearing without vsync turned on ?

I bought a - BenQ XL2411T Rev2.0 24" TRUE 144Hz Flicker FREE 3D Vision 2.0 Widescreen LED Monitor - Black, the other day and I'm happy with it, the default settings are blindingly bright though

the image seems far clearer than my old dell st2410
 
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I understand how the 120Hz works.

I've heard bad things in regards to colours and lag on these monitors though.

Was wondering if anyone could give me and first hand recommendations or reasons to buy or not to buy a 120Hz panel.
 
I don't notice any lag on mine or ghosting but others might , the colours are a bit brighter than my old monitor which seemed wierd but I've grown used to it now and see it as an improvement.

I've not tried tweaking it for my personal preferences though I just copied some settings a reviewer used..

I've no dead pixels and don't notice any backlight bleed on mine, although I've not turned the light off and took a photo of a black screen on my monitor to properly check.

but if there is any on mine I don't notice it.

obviously no 2 monitors are exactly the same though

If you buy a monitor and don't like it then you can always take advantage of DSR and return it at your own expense
 
Antony101 said:
I understand how the 120Hz works.

I've heard bad things in regards to colours and lag on these monitors though.

Was wondering if anyone could give me and first hand recommendations or reasons to buy or not to buy a 120Hz panel.
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If your budget can go to a Eizo FG2421 then its superb, highly recommended, have owned benq xl2420t(120hz) viewsonic vp2770(2560x1440 ips) and now the eizo and it trumps them all.
 
Hi chap, I've just ad the same quandary. I always review any new hardware I buy just to make sure it fits my needs. Well I wanted a new monitor and finally decided on an Asus 278 he 144 hz . Now I'm not a pro gamer with the best hardware middle of the road tbh and I'm not very good tbh just love gaming and have done for years. What I can tell you is I could not believe there would be so much difference between my old 60 hz monitor and this. The color seems much better and although I've not changed any of my bf4 settings it just seems so much smoother and looks amazing in fact I die more times cos I'm just admiring the scenery in the game...lol....I've not had chance to try any other games yet tho. If I'm honest my Mrs went mad wen I bought this but honestly its the best investment I've made to my system ,which is only 6 months old itself. Now I'm not really a Asus fan boy but it was a toss up between this and a benq 120 hz and most reviews I saw and read said this was the better....btw got mine a bit cheaper than what overclockers are selling them at as well......basically its like gaming for the first time all over again ......this is just my opinion chap and I'm just an ordinary gamer...cheers
 
@Antony101:

The 240Hz mode isn't actually a real 240Hz. In reality it's a 120Hz input signal with Lightboost-like backlight strobing, or more like black-frame-insertion (though can be disabled for a regular 120Hz operation). But the real beauty of the FG2421 is that it's a VA panel, too. All the other 120/144Hz monitors have TN panels, which have their own downfalls.

So the FG2421 is indeed a premium monitor from a premium brand. Thus you will get a good monitor, but it will also cost accordingly. If it had been available when I was buying a monitor, I would have probably gone with that. (even though it's only 24")
 
I've got to agree on the Eizo FG2421. Its the only 120hz VA panel on the market at the moment and the only one I'd consider buying. VA is vastly superior to tn for image quality and I'd even say its better then IPS if you don't do professional photo work.

I've previously had a Benq XL2411T and it is by far the worst tn display I've ever used colour wise. I even tried to calibrate it with a spyder3 pro and still couldn't get it looking good so I eventually got rid of it and went for a 27" 1440p IPS. The IPS is great for colours but I do miss the smoothness of 120hz.

Unfortunately recommending monitors is difficult as everybody has different tastes. A lot of people are more then happy with the benq I had and it gets great reviews everywhere so you may find it perfectly fine.
 
Jeps said:
I've previously had a Benq XL2411T and it is by far the worst tn display I've ever used colour wise. I even tried to calibrate it with a spyder3 pro and still couldn't get it looking good so I eventually got rid of it and went for a 27" 1440p IPS. The IPS is great for colours but I do miss the smoothness of 120hz.

Unfortunately recommending monitors is difficult as everybody has different tastes. A lot of people are more then happy with the benq I had and it gets great reviews everywhere so you may find it perfectly fine.
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Isn't the choice between having either a) good colours or b) good response time?

If you are using the monitor primarily for gaming, you probably want one with a very fast response time to minimise motion blur during movement, but colour quality takes a hit.

Tough to balance it out.

I have a cheap 27" BenQ monitor but the motion blur is pretty bad on it for me, think it is advertised as having 4ms GtG? Really noticeable blur when playing ARPG's :3

I'd prolly only buy 1 or 2ms monitor for gaming from now on and take the colour hit, but that's just me :3
 
ShakeNBake said:
Isn't the choice between having either a) good colours or b) good response time?
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This used to be the case but not anymore, now we have the Eizo. It truely is in a league of its own.
3rd monitor I have owned in a year and it would take something very very special for me to part with it.
 
ShakeNBake said:
I have a cheap 27" BenQ monitor but the motion blur is pretty bad on it for me, think it is advertised as having 4ms GtG? Really noticeable blur when playing ARPG's :3

I'd prolly only buy 1 or 2ms monitor for gaming from now on and take the colour hit, but that's just me :3
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That's undoubtedly a VA panel. BenQ GW2750HM perhaps? At 60Hz you only need 'perfect' transitions of 8ms or less for the perceived blur to be as good as you'll see on a 60Hz monitor. If your monitor was actually performing all its transitions in 4ms, without producing overshoot (inverse ghosting), there wouldn't be a problem. BenQ kindly quote what is essentially one of the best case grey to grey transitions. In reality some of the pixel transitions on that monitor are much, much slower (over 30ms).

The FG2421 also has some very slow pixel transitions (~40ms) but the strobe backlight in Turbo 240 is able to mask this to some extent. According to user reports there are instances where trailing can still be seen as a result of this regardless of Turbo 240 but overall you get a smooth experience and the benefits of a decent MVA panel.
 
I've never had any issues with my Benq XL2411T. The colours aren't great for desktop use but for gaming they're absolutely fine.

I wouldn't be put off by what you read, it all comes down to an individuals expectations though :) I was coming from a 32 inch lcd tv and then a 19 inch square analogue office monitor. The XL2411T seemed heavenly compared to those.

I wouldn't like to lose 144fps either, I was on my mates 60hz screen at the weekend and it felt really choppy compared to what I'm used to :\ It was a lot more difficult to smoothly track targets.
 
Grimezy said:
I've never had any issues with my Benq XL2411T. The colours aren't great for desktop use but for gaming they're absolutely fine.

I wouldn't be put off by what you read, it all comes down to an individuals expectations though :) I was coming from a 32 inch lcd tv and then a 19 inch square analogue office monitor. The XL2411T seemed heavenly compared to those.

I wouldn't like to lose 144fps either, I was on my mates 60hz screen at the weekend and it felt really choppy compared to what I'm used to :\ It was a lot more difficult to smoothly track targets.
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Absolutely, dont be put off. I still think the motion from the benq 120hz i had was better than the eizo, but its not far behind.
 
PCM2 said:
That's undoubtedly a VA panel. BenQ GW2750HM perhaps? At 60Hz you only need 'perfect' transitions of 8ms or less for the perceived blur to be as good as you'll see on a 60Hz monitor. If your monitor was actually performing all its transitions in 4ms, without producing overshoot (inverse ghosting), there wouldn't be a problem. BenQ kindly quote what is essentially one of the best case grey to grey transitions. In reality some of the pixel transitions on that monitor are much, much slower (over 30ms).

The FG2421 also has some very slow pixel transitions (~40ms) but the strobe backlight in Turbo 240 is able to mask this to some extent. According to user reports there are instances where trailing can still be seen as a result of this regardless of Turbo 240 but overall you get a smooth experience and the benefits of a decent MVA panel.
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It is indeed :D
It's most noticeable when moving around in ARPG's. Standing still = very clear. Moving around = nowhere near as sharp, hard to read item drop names etc.

I might get one of the 1-2ms monitors over xmas, we shall see. Had my eye on the 24" AOC 144Hz one.
 
BenQ XL2411T owner here as well, no issues at all. Hadn't had much time to game at all, since my 7990 failed on me, but I know what I'm in for. Regarding colours it wasn't as bad for me as people put it, perhaps primarily since I'm not overly fussed about colour quality etc. If you want this for gaming, like I do, get it.
 
Another XL2411T convert here just echoing everyone else everything just feels so much sharper compared to 60hz, as for colours dont forget it also depends what your coming from my previous screen was a cheap sammie and to my eyes the colours seem good but then ive never liked ott brightness and once adjusted it looks fine
 
Can i suggest you put up with it for now and wait for Gsync monitors to come out? I'm using a 720p screen 60hz and I'm okay at the moment :) I run everything at 1080p and down-scale to 720p making things look nicer anyway

The Gsync monitors will be 120hz+ and eliminate sceen tearing (Read up on gsync)
 
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