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13.2 Beta Drivers Leaked :)

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Anyone wanting to try these please be careful, and do understand the risks. These are likely to contain major bugs, they're nowhere near ready yet.
 
the review was worded ambiguously regarding improvements. they made it sound like the 3 games they tested were specifically targeted in this update, while future catalysts will have latency fixes across the board. sapphire 7950 owners can't use it either (and who knows what other card)
 
PorkPieCat said:
the review was worded ambiguously regarding improvements. they made it sound like the 3 games they tested were specifically targeted in this update, while future catalysts will have latency fixes across the board. sapphire 7950 owners can't use it either (and who knows what other card)
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What review?
 
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http://techreport.com/review/24218/a-driver-update-to-reduce-radeon-frame-times

it's the only review out there, though you wouldn't have known that unless you'd looked. it's pretty interesting, though as i say it seems like 13.2 is a hotfix for a few games only.
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What makes you think there are other game issues?

Actually....

You also said
while future catalysts will have latency fixes across the board
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Will they? where are you getting your facts from?
 
i'm reporting what others are reporting. namely techreport, who i'm going to trust, who are claiming to have talked with AMD. AMD says they recognise a frame latency issue and will work on it now and in future drivers. it's on the conclusion page of the review i linked
 
Funny just before xmas i said nvidia cards seemed a lot smoother even when the amd had 60 fps+ and now Im proved right even though people said i was wrong :/

The thing Im struggling to understand is since radeon pro fixes skyrim with dynamic vsync is this latency linked to vsync? And is this why nvidia is better because it uses its own vsync thing?

If so then why don't they just forge radeon pro into ccc?

Id like someone to do a test with radeon pro and 12.11 vs 13.1/13.2 and show latency times? If someone tells me how ill do it myself.
 
Oh lawd. People jumped on you for saying "nVidia feels smoother" because you were saying across all games.

You haven't been proven right, what has been shown is that nVidia are smoother in some games and AMD are smoother in others.

AMD have just issued some PR over how they are going to look in to it. Try not to make it something it's not.
 
PorkPieCat said:
i'm reporting what others are reporting. namely techreport, who i'm going to trust, who are claiming to have talked with AMD. AMD says they recognise a frame latency issue and will work on it now and in future drivers. it's on the conclusion page of the review i linked
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Then what's the problem?

You said, and i quote again.
while future catalysts will have latency fixes across the board
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If AMD are going to work on it, then how from that did you get that ^^^^ ?

They say they have also had a chat with Nvidia and asked them "why they did so well" who responded
Nvidia has started engineering its drivers with an eye toward smooth and consistent frame rendering and delivery. I believe that effort began at some point during the Fermi generation of GPUs, so roughly two years ago, max. Clearly, that focus paid dividends in our comparison last month of the GTX 660 Ti and the Radeon HD 7950.
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Well the GTX 680 did have latency issues, which was found by these very same people shortly after release.

There is a link to that in here somewhere, i will post if you like just as soon as i can find it.

I'm also pretty sure that if you look you can find latency issues with Kepler far more recently then that.

Some people will try and make this an AMD only issue, its no more an AMD issue than it is Kepler, those who try and establish that line are purely trolling fanboys.

@ spoffle, this will never stop simply because Nvidia are no longer on top.
 
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Well it does really since they were some of the games i was on about lol. Also this review is not saying its only these games its linked 3 dx9 games that's all it happens on dx10 and dx11 too but none have been tested yet.

That aside it has to be linked to vsync then?
 
Well no because you're saying "nVidia are smoother than AMD in games" and that you've been proven right.

Which you haven't, what has been proven is that each have an advantage of smoothness in certain games and certain situations.

@humbug, yeah it seems like it. When I see people saying things like "I want to be able to recommend an nVidia card" I don't really get why some people "WANT" others to have nVidia cards like they do.

Weehamish isn't trolling, he's just incredibly clueless and seemingly has very little idea about most things.
 
No i understand certain games perform better with different cards this is not just with latency either!

My point is people couldn't see it where i could and now there's a way to prove it and i wanna know if its linked to vsync in some way as this fixes it in certain games.

Don't think you know everything because your one of the guys who said they were the same bla bla bla when they are infact not. ** There is no need for that **

Id also like a game that nvidia is not smooth on can you name one?
 
weehamish said:
No i understand certain games perform better with different cards this is not just with latency either!

My point is people couldn't see it where i could and now there's a way to prove it and i wanna know if its linked to vsync in some way as this fixes it in certain games.

Don't think you know everything because your one of the guys who said they were the same bla bla bla when they are infact not.

Id also like a game that nvidia is not smooth on can you name one?
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Read and heed my conjecture, my conjecture is fact, its my conjecture and there in proof in its self.

Come on.... :p
 
No I am talking about latency, some games have worse latency on AMD, some have it worse on nVidia.

You were making absolute statements that nVidia is smoother than AMD always.

I don't think I know everything, you seemingly do because you seem to get butthurt when you talk rubbish and someone points out that you're talking rubbish.

Others have already done frametime tests and graphs to show that nVidia have worse latency in some games/instances, you have been present in these threads.
 
No i don't mean it like that i mean some people don't notice it at all. Same with fps some people are happy to play with it jumping all over.

Its obv not just me who noticed it or this wouldn't have been done to get it fixed but i was one of the few who pointed it out around here and got flamed for it? But soon as a website does some tests everyones like yeah i need them frame latencies fixed bla bla.
 
Please link me a thread then as i can't remember. No spoffle i don't care if Im wrong someone has to be you've been on my back all night and about pointless things.

You obv don't like me but there's no need to follow me from thread to thread spewing crap at me.
 
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