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13900KS review
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Soldato
Yeah, I think 80 to 125w for 8 core CPUs is the ideal range, and then 150 to 180w for bigger Cpus with more cores. Anything above 200w is basically wasted heat. But again, I think the main problem that drives power limits higher and higher are reviewers. Especially when it comes to mobo manafacturers, they have no reason to hold back power, cause during mobo reviews youll have the worst performing motherboard if you don't go power over 9 thousandz.
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I still don't get how they made this review. I have the same chip, same AIO, same contact frame, way worse ram, worse mobo and I got 40k in R23 drawing over 346w not thermal throttling boosting with "normal" turbo settings. The all core run like he did didn't even hit 90c. Did he mess up the TVB settings in a previous bench or just tried to tweak with it and hit 1,5v in CB? That's the most simple reason I can think of. I agree with @Bencher, prob done on purpose.
YT reviewers are truly something else.
YT reviewers are truly something else.
Soldato
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He thermal throttled a stock 13600k on a 360mm running R23 as well. Pure clown material.
They do it for the $$ - I'm sure they could create what would be a boring review where the CPUs don't throttle if they wanted to, but that would generate less clicks.
All they have to work with is the thumbnail (needs to catch your attention, OMG faces, volcanos etc), the title and the algorithm. Boring = less money.
After comparing a few reviews. Hub shows 13600k pulling nearly 190w, most other reviewers shown it pulling 145-160w and one reviewer showed theirs pulling just 110w.
Also Australia is hot mate
13900KS wiping the floor with Zen 4. A generational difference. Now to see how this will hold up vs 7800X3D next month... I'm still hopeful Zen 4 3D can get near it.
www.pcgameshardware.de
Intel Core i9-13900KS im Test: Der TDP-Hammer mit der 6.000-Megahertz-Ladung
Auf dieser Seite besprechen wir die neuen Bewertungsgrundlagen, die wir für CPU-Generationen ab Alder Lake getroffen haben. Es folgen die Benchmarks in Spielen sowie Anwendungen. Die Beobachtung wird durch einen Index abgeschlossen, der die Leistung des Prozessors im CPU-Limit mit einer...
Soldato
In games, yes, ive been saying it all this time. For heavy mt workloads the 7950x is more efficient at same wattage, not by much but it has the lead. In mixed workloads (autocad photoshop premiere etc.) intel has a huge lead in efficiency13900KS wiping the floor with Zen 4. A generational difference. Now to see how this will hold up vs 7800X3D next month... I'm still hopeful Zen 4 3D can get near it.
Intel Core i9-13900KS im Test: Der TDP-Hammer mit der 6.000-Megahertz-Ladung
Auf dieser Seite besprechen wir die neuen Bewertungsgrundlagen, die wir für CPU-Generationen ab Alder Lake getroffen haben. Es folgen die Benchmarks in Spielen sowie Anwendungen. Die Beobachtung wird durch einen Index abgeschlossen, der die Leistung des Prozessors im CPU-Limit mit einer...
Whats surprising is the 12900k with 4400 ddr5 is beating zen 4 almost across the board
That is nuts
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Soldato
720p with a 4090. Only fanboys give a ****.
Soldato
Τhe resolution is irrelevant. The point is to remove the GPU bottleneck. If you can remove the gpu bottleneck at 4k or even 8k then the tests would be done at 4k or 8k and the results would be the exact same.
So in order to save time, instead of trying every single resolution to see if you are gpu bound, why not just run the test at 720p and be done with it?
Soldato
And 720p is hugely memory bandwidth hungry and zen is running at 5200 lol.
Soldato
And it still loses to a 12900k running at 4400! Insane
Caporegime
I mean its German, they post them constantly on this English speaking forum because its the only thing they can find that disagrees with everything else on the Internet, what does that tell you? None of us can read it... yet its the only thing they post here, and its every other post....
Add it and them to the Userbenchmark / Principle Technologies list...
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Caporegime
You know, they keep banging on about "AMD Fanboyism" Intel are the only ones with people who have set up entire Intel Fanboi websites masquerading as legitimate reviewers, bear that in mind the next time you get called that for disagreeing with the narrative by people who keep posting links to them.
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Soldato
But its pretty easy to settle whether their benchmarks are true or fake. We have the hardware they use, we can test it. Ive personally asked repeatedly but people with amd cpus are not willing.
The only game I've managed to test is cp2077, the ingame benchmark, there was about a 32fps difference in aveages and arond 40% in minimums between a tuned 7950x and a stock 13900k.
But again, choose any of the games from the review you found suspect and ill benchmark it on my 13900k,and lets pray someone else will do the same on his zen 4. If we end up with completely different results then ill stop using that site obviously
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Soldato
Dont we have people here with Zen 4 or the 3d and a high end gpu? I mean come on now, that's just dodging, which is common tbf, whenever im asking for amd users to post a bench they just disappear
Soldato
Actually i just checked, their numbers on cyberpunk are pretty spot on regarding the 13900k and the 7950x. In minimums the 7950x even with tuned 6400 ram struggles to hit 80 while the 13900k casually hits 100. So at leastt the numbers in cyberpunk are pretty accurate
