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1700 overclocking + temps

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A couple of things with my 1700. It's currently running at 3.9 but it appears to stay at this speed 24/7. I have tried playing with pstates but never get anywhere and this solution seems outdated since the introduction of the 'Ryzen Balanced Power Plan'. However, changing this has no effect either. Google gives me conflicting information, there must be a simple way to only run at 3.9 when under load.

Next issue are temps but I wonder if this is related. My idles are all over the place. On a really good day it may be in the high 30s but quite often it will be in the 40/50s and CAM pops up with a notification saying it topped 84 - yet I have never witnessed this myself particularly while gaming. And while gaming, my load temps are usually in the 60s which seem reasonable. So I wonder if the OC is causing high idle temps but reasonable load temps?

1700/CH6/Trident 16GB 3200 CL14
 
AFAIK Ryzen does have power saving when overclocked.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/commen..._clock_speed_on_a_manually/dm6gfkv/?context=3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzxn1hS7Nq4&t=30s

I was initially concerned that my 1700 wasn't downclocking and was fixed at 3.8GHz so I dragged out the power monitor and found that when overclocked it only consumes a few more watts at idle. In the end it wasn't really worth me worrying about it.

This behavior only works for me if I force C states enabled on my B350 Strix though.

If you're concerned about the temperatures you could revert to stock to compare. My OC 1700 idles between 30-40 (1.319v).
 
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Also when using the ryzen balanced power plan it sets the minimum to 80%, you can change this setting lower to allow the CPU to clock down further if required.
 
Ah I see and this is better than pstates? Shouldn't a feature like this be the norm? My former 3570K managed to cope just fine lol.
 
At stock settings it downclocks fine. If you apply an all core overclock it wont. If you overclock with Pstates it will downclock. Down clocking only saves a tiny amount of power anyway so not worth worrying about.
 
If that's the case, there is something seriously wrong with my temps then. What's weirder is how loads are fine but idles are way too high. I am pretty sure I checked the offset thing in the BIOS as well.
 
Are you on Asus Crosshair MOBO? Because the temps are all out of whack on that thing. There is some offset which can be set in the BIOS which may or may not help.

Make sure you have latest bios and have a play with these "There is a Sense MI Skew and Sense MI Offset under the Tweaker's Paradise".

Cheers
 
Checked the Sense MI option, it seems for non-X chips it should remain on auto/master. Plus, Ryzen Master is also reporting the temps. I have tried bringing down the clock speed/voltage which doesn't seem to be it either, the warmer weather is making it harder to figure it out. A cold boot will idle in the low 40s, but 5 minutes after playing PUBG it's jumping from the mid 40s to low 50s (down to 3.8GHz @ 1.3125). I wonder if it's a contact issue?

Edit - running PUBG now - mid 50s :confused:
 
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3.85Ghz with 1.35v LLC2 here, R7 1700 jumps to mid 50s, sometimes 60s for short periods of time during gaming with a Noctua D15.
Should be fine, the chips can take up to 95C.
 
My 1700 @3.8Ghz idles about 23c (depending on the ambient temp) and goes up to 52c under a full AVX load in OCCT. That is cooled by a 360 AIO though.
The proper setting for Sense MI skew is Enabled and then set the offset to 272 when using a 1700 non X CPU.
 
My room tends to be really warm, so I get to about 72C in a full AVX workload with 3.85Ghz 1.35v LLC2 with a single fan D15.
On the plus side it does seem to top out at around 75C even with 1.425v.
 
Isn't AVX a CPU instruction set?

All your temps in recent posts sound fine and my load temps seem fine also. The weird part is why there is such little difference between my idle and load temps? I will try and set the offset to the figure mentioned a few posts up.
 
AVX workloads will heat up your chip more than anything, so they're good for testing stability.
Prime95, OCCT use AVX for example.
 
[email protected] all cores (with downclocking on C6H) 1.2V vcore, 1.1V Soc,

70C max temperature on OCCT with stock cooling fan.

Gskill Ripjaws V 3200C14 at 3333C14 1.4V vmem (Stilts safe preset).
 
Well I have made progress but also encountered a new problem :o.

Trying 3.8 @ 1.33 which seems fine and I sorted the issue with it running all core turbo even at idle, by resetting the power plan modes (as it wouldn't let me change it). On 'Windows Balanced', the Ryzen option has gone. So my idle temps are a lot better and it downclocks. However I now seem to get higher load temps :p. A simple R15 run will shoot the CPU temp into the 70s which it never did before. I noticed my AIO wasn't ramping up under load and tried again with the fans/pump on high and got the same temps.

Ryzen Master and HWinfo are reporting the same temps so don't think it's the offset issue as I seemingly didn't have that before. Still tinkering but any ideas?
 
Some motherboards you have to set a non whole number for the max multiplier, I set mine to 37.5, so it'll down-clock @ idle.
 
The plot thickens. I just ran Unigine and Afterburner reported CPU temps of around 50C but it looked like CAM was reporting higher, as it was still well above 50C ramping down after the benchmark finished.

Edit - updating the chipset drivers seems to have restored Ryzen Balanced. So the idle temps are back to their higher than usual temps and load just went up to >90C within a few seconds of an R15 run :(.
 
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