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Just noticed this:

lukechad said:
I think a 600 should be fine for you then, it wont be too bad on insurance and its not super fast like the 1000's are, but a 600 isnt to be laughed at, they say these days people only have 1000's just to say they have one, in reality on a sunday ride a 600 will be perfectly adequate for 99.9% of riders :)

There are the main sports 600's:
Honda CBR600 (F and RR)
Suzuki GSX-R600
Kawazaki ZX-6
Yamaha R6

They are the main ones, a fair few other less common brads also make them, triumph etc.

In my opinion all of the above bikes would be fine for you, its just a case of looking at which ones you think look the best and which you are comfortable on, for £2500 you can get yourself a good condition model of any of them. Mileage, overall condition, any addicents etc are all big factors in the price as well.

You are looking at ~100bhp for most of the ones I said, and at 190 odd kg the power to weight ratio is pretty impressive, 500bhp/tonne isnt bad at all.

As you have a while to think about it I'd suggest looking for reviews on them and find common faults on each, if the bike has been looked after properly and serviced regularly then they should be fine. Go and have a sit on them too, get a feel for the different riding positions, although they all look like they would be the same there are lots of differences when you actualy get on one.

I hope this is of some help to you.


Does anyone else have anything to add and Luke would you mind adding me to MSN so we can chin wag? Cheers.
 
insurance can be horrendous on a ristricted 600, I think the Ins company automatically assumes you will unrestrict them.

I'm not sure I would bother, they are much heavier and need that extra power, I am sure the novelty of being on a bigger bike will wear off quickly and you will just be frustraighted with the limiter.

I would have thought getting a lower powered bike and learning to truely ride the nuts off that will be more fun and give you fantastic riding skills when it comes to a bigger bike. You wont get as much of an enjoyable ride out of a restricted 600.

I jumped on a gsxr600 after 8 hours of lessons and two minors ;) and a year later Iam far from pushing the bikes abuility, but my mates who worked their way up through the sizes and pushed each bike to the limit get so much more out of theirs :(

Food for thought.

Failing that I have a 11k K1 GSXR600 sitting here ;)...........
 
I'm 17 and have a gsxr 600 SRAD, its great for me as a commuter and a weekend toy. I would however advise, whatever your mates/others say, get it restricted. Someone on another forum I use just got £60 and 3 points for not being 33BHP. Insurance wise it won't be terrible for you, its £800 TPO with 1NCB for me with www.ebikeinsurance.co.uk . Ultimatley with the sport 600s available it comes down to which you like the look of most :)
Anymore questions feel free to ask
Alex
 
It WILL be restricted, don't worry about that.

How does it compare to 125cc bikes for handling and power when restricted?

Edit: what was your initial insurance like?
 
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Personally wouldn't feel safe on a 600 sports that's been restricted, these bikes are all designed taking weight/power into consideration to give the best handling possible.

Then all of a sudden you take 80bhp away from the mix and something’s bound to give and when it does I wouldn't fancy having my butt thrown down the road.

This is probably not what you want to hear but I’d hold off on it will you hit 21, as they say all good things come to those who wait.
 
Any 400's you guys would recommend. From talking to Shoei it seems like a better option since restricting them wouldn't be such a blow for their power/weight ratios.
 
How does the restrictor work? Does it just limit the RPM's to say 7000 or something, or does it starve the engine of fuel/air so it produces less power. If thats the case wouldn't restricting a big bike actually do it harm?
 
GlasgowTitan said:
How does the restrictor work? Does it just limit the RPM's to say 7000 or something, or does it starve the engine of fuel/air so it produces less power. If thats the case wouldn't restricting a big bike actually do it harm?

I think it work my restricting the mixture via the carb but I'd liek confirmation.
 
http://www.400greybike.co.uk/index.asp <---- good place for 400 info.

Zxr400r. great bike, very good on the handling
VFR400r - NC30/35. the daddy of the 400's. Still wins races in the IOM TT
FZR400R - current ideal 400 for race winning. lots of models
GSXR400 - not seen many about, looks like the 750J/L model
CBR400RR - The baby blade

Then you can get the Katana 400, looks like the old Katana 1100

Any one who says the 400's are no good, i suggest you go ride one. I followed a VFR800 and CBR600FS to Devils Bridge one day. The VFR800 got in my way through the bends, the CBR600 was the same and he wasnt hanging round.

Robb
 
It fits washers into carbs to restrict the air taken into the engine, hence reducing power.

I rode around on a CBR 400 NC29 with a restrictor kit in. It was my first proper motorbike. It was still nippy, but soon got boring.

I always find people who've started on smaller bikes and worked there way up are always faster and more confident riders. I can't get my to lean anywhere nears as much as my biker mates can :(
 
What's the insurance difference between the 400' and the 600'? The websites I go on insist I have the number plate to check quotes :s
 
Go on ebikeinsurance.co.uk they don't need numberplates. 400s are nice bikes, but you are usually getting a really old one now :(. Also, the people saying about being unhappy about restricted 600 it only really affects top end, my bike still revs to 9k easily, just the last 3k that it won't allow, and on my private land I got it upto 95, just takes a few seconds longer to get there.
Alex

P.S the person that asked how they knew it was restricted, he had an accident and sprained his ankle (someone called him an ambulance), so the police took care of his bike, and due to the circumstances wanted to inspect it, so they asked if it was restricted or not, and that there was no point lieing as they would check anyway :).
 
My mates only 18, hes got a 500 (or 600 cant remember), is a real bike head. Hes off to look at 1000's at the weekend, he's got deep pockets though.
 
People who say it only really affects top end are talking rubbish. The difference between a restricted 600cc and a un-restricted 600cc are leagues apart. Same applies for a 400cc.
 
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