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790 is in the top 3 list already. Are they still making the 690? It seems to have disappeared from their site and price lists.
That's not really different to the MT-09 except for looks, no?
You only say that because it has a blipper!Get the KTM.
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They paid back the full price that I paid for the Tuono with no questions or fighting, even though I owned it for 9 months. They also gave me 2000 chf for any damaged items of clothing without receipts needed.
So even though I lost no money from the accident I don't want to spend it all again.
I loved the aprilia but it had some electrical issues that never got resolved and the local garage stopped being an official aprilia dealer. Plus is heavier than I'd like and was hard work to throw around hair pins.
Edit: the 790 is a brand new bike so I'd take a big hit on the depreciation. It's also an unknown quality, particularly with its custom components rather than off the shelf parts like triumph uses.
So even though I lost no money from the accident I don't want to spend it all again.
I loved the aprilia but it had some electrical issues that never got resolved and the local garage stopped being an official aprilia dealer. Plus is heavier than I'd like and was hard work to throw around hair pins.
Edit: the 790 is a brand new bike so I'd take a big hit on the depreciation. It's also an unknown quality, particularly with its custom components rather than off the shelf parts like triumph uses.
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What is holding me back on the KTM is the fact that they are working on an R version, and I really regretted not getting a Street Triple R.
There are also no reviews for the bike yet and I can't test ride it until it's out and by that point it will be hard to get hold of. The non-adjustable suspension may be an issue but as all the components are custom built and not off the shelf parts you can't get a feel for the bike before it's released.
I'm tempted to get a cheap bike for now and pick up a nearly new 790 or a new 790 R later on. I am very tight with my cash, I've been looking for a new TV for four years now
A very different bike to the final version. The suspension and brakes are very different for a start.
What puts me off the Street Triple RS is that it's missing a lot of the tech in the competition for a few thousand more on the price tag. No blipper, no cornering ABS, no cornering traction control, no cruise control, no LED lights etc.
I enjoyed riding the RS on both test rides though, and my current plan is to test the KTM 790 when I can. If I like it I'll buy it, if not I'll get the RS.
This thread was to hopefully discover that one perfect bike that I have been overlooking, but I'm not sure that it exists.
They are very strict about bike modifications here, so a bike either needs to be sorted stock or with factory option parts. I imagine changing the internals of the suspension is easy to get away with, but they check that everything visible is either completely stock or it has to have authorisation papers. These papers cost a bomb to get, in the region of 600-700 GBP per item if it's even possible.
I was giggling the entire time I was out on the MT-10, it was like an excited puppy that just wanted to misbehave all the time. I'd want a 2017 model though with the improved fuelling and giving me 2 years remaining warranty which puts it out of my price range. I need to look into that some more and add it back to the list. It's heavy but it really didn't feel like it unlike my Tuono, but that's probably mostly due to the seat height/sitting "on" the bike and not "in" it with the Tuono.
I have a dealer offering me a 2017 Street Triple RS with 9000km for less than the price of a new KTM 790, with 3 years warranty or 5 years for an extra £400. This is a very nice dealer too, and they have offered to let me go on their customer track day at Anneau du Rhin for free even if I don't get a Triumph in the end. Customer service like that is extremely rare here, and saving 25% of the cost compared to a new one makes the RS seem better value for money. That also removes any concerns I would have about resale value if KTM made a 790R later on that was the bee's knees.
I agree with the S1000R. It has every piece of tech I could ever want (a TFT screen is not a plus for me, I couldn't see the RS's screen in strong winter sun) but I didn't "connect" like I did when I rode the MT-10.
The German TUV certificates aren't valid here, each component has to be tested individually for Switzerland. If someone else has passed the test for your exact model and year, and your exact model for the new component, then you can buy the certificate for a few hundred quid. If not then you can pay 3000 CHF to have it tested.
They test noise and other emissions thoroughly at our MOT equivalent, so most bikes are unlikely to pass the tests after a remap. How Aprilia got the stock Tuono to pass is beyond me though.
The 130km tank range doesn't make it appealing.
Thanks for that. I think that tank range is enough to be quite annoying for me. Is that the full 17L from the fuel tank or up to reserve? I need 200km to reserve/low fuel light ideally.
I'm going to test ride the KTM 790 and read the reviews on it and then make a decision from there.
I'm going to test ride the KTM 790 and read the reviews on it and then make a decision from there.
What video was that from? I want to see if the bike was stock or not and a few other things.
It doesn't have the latest map, and it shows. I have ridden one with the smoothed throttle map and it does make a noticeable difference.
I am pickling it up after they add the rad guard and an SW Motech top ring to it for free. Do you recommend getting the oil guard too? It has a few bent fins already as you can see in the photos.
I have ridden one with and one without the akra slip on now and they sound identical. Maybe the stock is a little more metallic on idle but once rolling there is no difference. My akra money will be going on a blipper next year if I don't crash this one.
This is so much more fun than the Tuono!
Edit: I will be getting the comfort seat too I think. We'll see how it goes in Spring.
Edit: The S1000R is an absolute weapon, and I really can't deny that it is marginally better in every way compared to the MT-10. It weighs less, makes more power, has a blipper, has better fuel range, better suspension (once you disable the Adaptive Suspension), less depreciation etc.
The main problem I had with the S1000R is you didn't feel alive on it until you were nipping at triple digits. It does a lot of the work for you to make you go fast, so to feel closer to the edge you had to be doing silly speeds. The buzzy bars also made my hands go numb.
The MT-10 just makes you feel alive at any speed. Going from 30MPH to 60MPH lofting the front wheel in the process just makes you giggle, and it also handled and stopped superbly too. The depreciation also worked in my favour as I got a great deal while a BMW of a similar age and mileage (which would lack the blipper) would at least 25% more.
For a bike to ride to a track and do a track day the S1000R is pretty much impossible to fault, but the MT-10 is a bike you buy because you just enjoy riding. Plus BMW charge an arm and a leg for parts and labour here.
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I completely understand that, it is a very polarising bike.
It's a far better street bike, and all the fun is in the acceleration instead of in the outright speed and maximum lean. The tuono is very fun ridden fast on perfect surfaces, the mt 10 is fun most of the time.
The mt 10 is an excited puppy that is just happy you threw a ball at it while the tuono is a very serious tool with the world's best sound track, looking for a race circuit to play on.
Do you have any info on this map that I can send to the dealer, I'll really struggle to explain this in French. I know it hasn't been done because it's only had the first service done on it at 1000 km before the map was released.
Is this something they'll pickup at the next service or could they miss it?