1st time build, please help

Stevek · 16 Nov 2011 at 23:26

Hi all
Please could you help me, I would like to get the Corsair Obsidian 650d with the below items, my question is, do i need to use water cooling ( cpu and gpu blocks) and wil it all fit in the case, or could i just use the (Corsair Hydro H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler)
Second question, will this be a good build or should i change anything?

Corsair Obsidian 650D
Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (I want to over clock)
Gigabyte G1 Sniper 2 Intel Z68
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual/Quad Channel Kit
Corsair Force Series 3 120GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive ( 1 for windows and another for my games)
Asus GeForce GTX 590 612MHz 3GB GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 DVI miniDP (I might get another one at a later date)
Corsair Professional Series AX850 High Performance 850W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply

Thank you

Steve

beejjacobs · 16 Nov 2011 at 23:35

What will this be used for?

Stevek · 16 Nov 2011 at 23:36

Hi
This will be used for gaming

fowler002 · 16 Nov 2011 at 23:37

I'm going to go against the grain and say get the i2700k over the i2600k

save the ~£20 and get the h80

if you want to go custom watercooling route http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-034-OE&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=

you'll be wanting 1kw if you want to add a 2nd 590

Reaper 392 · 17 Nov 2011 at 00:04

a few things i'd like to point out:

the i5 2500k performs exactly the same during gaming as the i7 2600k. look at the FPS benchmarks here:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=287
however, if you were planning on doing video encoding, photoshop work, or something else that is highly threaded then, as you can see, the i7 2600k does make a difference.

afaik, the i7 2700k is exactly the same as the i7 2600k, but with one of the settings turned up slightly higher, and not worth the extra over the i7 2600k

the gigabyte G1 sniper is a very expensive motherboard because it comes with ~£170 of stuff you really dont need. it has an onboard killer 2100 network card, which in reviews did almost nothing over a standard network card, and it also has a very expensive sound card, which really isnt needed unless your a massive audiophile, or you work with music. something like the asrock Z68 extreme 4 Gen3 will be perfect, or the extreme 7 if you plan on SLIing the 590s

also, about the 590. the 590 is essentially two 580s in SLI on one circuit board. the upside is a lot of graphics power in one slot of the motherboard. the downside is that, to stop the card from overheating they have had to slow it down massively, to the point where two GTX 570s in SLI are faster than it. the cooler on the 590 is also horrifically loud compared to two individual 580s in SLI.

obviously if you plan on using two 590s (equivalent of 4 580s) it wouldnt be a good idea to go for the 580s because there just wouldnt be room. however, adding the second 590 wont give you as much of a boost as you would think because SLI isnt quite as effective when you get the 3rd and 4th card. what it will give you is microstuttering

if your gaming, the usual thing for ram is 4GB is plenty, 8GB is recommended because its so cheap, 16GB is for people doing massive video editing stuff or major photoshop work or whatever.

theres no need for two separate SSDs for windows and games. 1 120GB is more than enough for windows 7, SSD caching and plenty of games. with SSDs i;d actually recommend the crucial M4 because its slightly faster in the real world, and i've seen a few problem threads with the corsair

the case is a great halfway house for air cooling and watercooling, so pretty much whatever you want to do with it it'll be fine, air or water (although, it might not be up to watercooling two 590s with internal rads)

Stevek · 17 Nov 2011 at 00:28

Wow i got a lot to learn lol thank you for the advice,
lol im not a audiophile will be using headphones 90% of the time, i will look at the other motherboards then

so it may be better me getting gtx 580 3gb insted of the 590's as i am only going to use this to play games

Stevek · 17 Nov 2011 at 00:30

And i can always get a new case or put external rad on the back if i go sli

stulid · 17 Nov 2011 at 00:31

Reaper 392 said:
afaik, the i7 2700k is exactly the same as the i7 2600k, but with one of the settings turned up slightly higher, and not worth the extra over the i7 2600k

Really?

At current prices the i7 2700K is worth much more, extra speed, overclocking potential and a copy of BF3 for a few £ more.

Reaper 392 · 17 Nov 2011 at 01:14

stulid said:
Really?

At current prices the i7 2700K is worth much more, extra speed, overclocking potential and a copy of BF3 for a few £ more.

ah, its wednesday. i totally forgot the deals had swapped over. now theres very little reason not to go for the i7 2700k.

stulid, do you know if the i7 2700k's are cherry picked? i suspect not but im not sure (hence the afaik in my post)

*in b4 a smug git says its actually thursday*

stulid · 17 Nov 2011 at 01:18

Reaper 392 said:
stulid, do you know if the i7 2700k's are cherry picked? i suspect not but im not sure (hence the afaik in my post)

I think they are, the results in that big thread
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18335424&page=2

Show that they are doing same/higher frequencies with less/same Vcore, there must be some sort of binning going on at intels end.

***Also depends on the motherboard also***

fowler002 · 17 Nov 2011 at 01:19

Reaper 392 said:
ah, its wednesday. i totally forgot the deals had swapped over. now theres very little reason not to go for the i7 2700k.

stulid, do you know if the i7 2700k's are cherry picked? i suspect not but im not sure (hence the afaik in my post)

*in b4 a smug git says its actually thursday*

its thursday