2-Way Ceiling Lights Issue

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Hi All.

Recently moved into my flat and there is an issue with the ceiling lights. I've drawn a diagram below which is a hawkeye view of my hallway:

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There are 2 wall switches, and 2 ceiling lights. Ceiling Light '1' works as expected. I believe it has what is called 2-way switching, meaning you can control the lights from either light switch.

When I arrived ceiling light 2 wasn't working, I assumed dead bulb, so I replaced it. And no matter what configuration I have the wall switches, it stays permanently on.

Here is the wiring under ceiling rose 1:
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and ceiling rose 2:
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I don't know much about internal domestic wiring. However it looks like in ceiling rose 2, there is no loop through to other ceiling lights, there is no switch live, and basically the circuit is permanently completing (hence the permanently on bulb). Am I right in thinking that there should be some extra wiring coming in to ceiling rose 2.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
 
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are you sure you have the pics the right way round? Rose 1 looks like it doesn't have enough wires in it to be switched, one coming in is enough for always-on but you need at least two for switched...


chances are it's a mess up there. I'd get a spark on the job
 
it looks like rose 2 as it is now has just a permanent feed running to it

it'd need another wire going to a switch and a slight rearrangement of the existing wires to make it switchable
 
At each switch, is there just an individual switch or two? Reason I ask, it looks as if they 'intended' the single switch to operate both lights, i.e. both lights either on or off but operational from either side of the room. Problem is, they've wired the first ceiling rose in loop in/loop out, so the second would need it's own switch line.

What they appear to have done is use the loop out straight into the live/neutral which means it will, no matter how switched, always be on.

The solution (though I'd get a spark if I were you), is to simply move the line from the loop out and put that in the same terminal as the brown sleeved conductor, then the switch will operate both lights at one.

I'm assuming the switching is 2-way, so the other switch is connected to the first switch, rather than being independent.
 
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Kol said:
At each switch, is there just an individual switch or two? Reason I ask, it looks as if they 'intended' the single switch to operate both lights, i.e. both lights either on or off but operational from either side of the room. Problem is, they've wired the first ceiling rose in loop in/loop out, so the second would need it's own switch line.

What they appear to have done is use the loop out straight into the live/neutral which means it will, no matter how switched, always be on.

The solution (though I'd get a spark if I were you), is to simply move the line from the loop out and put that in the same terminal as the brown sleeved conductor.

I'm assuming the switching is 2-way, so the other switch is connected to the first switch, rather than being independent.
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Single switch at each wall switch. Light 1 works as you'd expect.

00 = off
11 = off
10 = on
01 = on
 
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