2007 - Sony PS3 sells 8.83 million, XBOX 360 sells 7.3 million

I still think the data is suspect, not only from the fact that wifi is a much more readily understood service now than it was over 12 months ago - not to mention the FACT that any opinion poll is only as good as those that take part

Yes you can say that only 20% of those taken part have wifi, but only something as meaningless as that - what proportion of net users actually took part in the survey? I think it said out of 2500 users in the USofA 14 months ago .......hmmmmm ok

Yes of course Frank, that's right, your 'feelings' and 'isolated experience' of WiFi is so much more credible, we must throw away any 'studies' data that does't fit in with you and your parents WiFi enabled status and go with our gut feelings..

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Is it me or is this thread going round in circles with the same arguments only differently worded ?

PS3 didn't sell as many in its first year than the sony fanboys wanted, but are diverting attention to say that they are happy they didn't back a dead horse, built in wifi and hd media drive are better than add ons even if you don't want them, psn is free, Xbox Live is great, the 360 has ingame messaging, the sky is blue and water is wet.


Fixed....

But I suspect your original comments where actually closer to the truth :D
 
Yes of course Frank, that's right, your 'feelings' and 'isolated experience' of WiFi is so much more credible, we must throw away any 'studies' data that does't fit in with you and your parents WiFi enabled status and go with our gut feelings..

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You need to take a break mate - all I said was that USA usage from 14 months ago from such a small percentage of people cant really count for that much (considering how new reliable wifi was back in late 2006 early 07)

You also need to take a humour pill - as you missed a couple of blatant jokes
 
the truth was contained in my original post

The truth is that PS3 only owners don't just want it recognised that the PS3 is a good console (which no one here denies) with good sales they want to have it declared the 'wiinner' and that the 360 is dead. Hence the usual bitch fest.

Even the opening thread showed a desire for the PS3 to 'leave the 360 behind', and the thread should have been closed there.
 
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The truth is that PS3 only owners don't just want it recognised that the PS3 is a good console (which no one here denies) with good sales they want to have it declared the 'wiinner' and that the 360 is dead. Hence the usual bitch fest.

Even the opening thread showed a desire for the PS3 'leave the 360 behind', and the thread should have been closed there.

I find that untrue. No one cares if the PS3 'wins'

Whats been argued in here is value for money. Nothing to do with what you said.

If a pen is blue, I'll say it's blue.

If PS3 bombed, Fine. If it soared then, Great.

Same with the Xbox 360.

To look for a winner between the 2 is stupid, All I want to see is plenty of high quality on both sides of the fence.

There being a clear winner, would just hurt the consumer. As chances are developers would take more interest in the market leader.

While it's neck and neck, We see released everywhere. And those releases improve, To try and push the console.
 
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You need to take a break mate - all I said was that USA usage from 14 months ago from such a small percentage of people cant really count for that much (considering how new reliable wifi was back in late 2006 early 07)

You also need to take a humour pill - as you missed a couple of blatant jokes

LOL.. I think you are missing my 'humour'... I as chuckling all the time I was typing that one.. I don't take it seriously, at the end of the day it's a bit of banter, sorry if that isn't so evident.. ;) I did try and put a :D at the end to make sure you didn't take it too personally but evidently I missed the mark :)

And I'd have thought the 2000 cup holder :D comment in a previous post might have eluded to the fact I was being quite light hearted.....
 
I find that untrue. No one cares if the PS3 'wins'

Whats been argued in here is value for money. Nothing to do with what you said.


The original diversion was about the future proofness of the 360/PS3, which got onto the subject of the modular approach Vs the all in one and giving the consumer choice, and how each manufacturer would handle 'new' features..

Unfortunately I used the word 'higher price' in the con's section of having an 'all in one' console vs the 'cheaper price' (but less features) of the base model of the cheaper console.. i.e. what I meant was £300 > £199 as a number..

Of course people that hadn't contributed to the thread then just instantly saw the word 'higher price' and jumped straight onto the VFM bandwagon and took everything out of context..

But look on the bright side, at least it's all in one thread..


And I think you will find Abooie is correct, looking back at the thread, it does seem to be plenty of talk of how the 360 is going to fail that has started most of it.. even the thread has a big :D in it, and people posting that the 360 sales have slowed and it's all going downhill... the only anti PS3 thing really was actually just a 'fact' that the PS3 hasn't met expectation... even if it is doing well, it's a bit fanboyish, but at least it's a fact..
 
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And I think you will find Abooie is correct, looking back at the thread, it does seem to be plenty of talk of how the 360 is going to fail that has started most of it.. even the thread has a big :D in it, and people posting that the 360 sales have slowed and it's all going downhill... if that isn't cause for people trying to balance a discussion, I don't know what is..

Well, This comes from someone who is probably seen as pretty much a Pro Sony poster. Saying the 360 is a dying console is simply BS. :p

It's in it's 3rd year, So maybe it's slowing down in sales, but keep in mind, We've seen 3 Xmas's, 3 Birthdays, and 3 years worth of Annual salaries. I think most people who wanted a 360 have one. Hense the slow down in sales.

The reason for the picking up PS3 sales? The price drop, i'm not 100% sure how long the PS3 has been on the market for. But only hardcore fans would have bought the PS3 with it's initial price tag. It was over £500!!!

now you can get a PS3, For cheaper than certain Xbox 360 models, Ofcourse that's going to be appealing to many. And so sales are going to go up, and up to the point they are higher than 360, Because. A: a lot of People have a 360 already, and B: They are now more affordable, to those who already have a 360, and to those who have waited for the price drops.

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I don't think any stats here, are showing signs of death. Just signs of a new flurish in sales for Sony. :)

What I've said seems pretty obvious to me, So no doubt it's already been said somewhere in this thread :p
 
Well, This comes from someone who is probably seen as pretty much a Pro Sony poster. Saying the 360 is a dying console is simply BS. :p

It's in it's 3rd year, So maybe it's slowing down in sales, but keep in mind, We've seen 3 Xmas's, 3 Birthdays, and 3 years worth of Annual salaries. I think most people who wanted a 360 have one. Hense the slow down in sales.

The reason for the picking up PS3 sales? The price drop, i'm not 100% sure how long the PS3 has been on the market for. But only hardcore fans would have bought the PS3 with it's initial price tag. It was over £500!!!

now you can get a PS3, For cheaper than certain Xbox 360 models, Ofcourse that's going to be appealing to many. And so sales are going to go up, and up to the point they are higher than 360, Because. A: a lot of People have a 360 already, and B: They are now more affordable, to those who already have a 360, and to those who have waited for the price drops.

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I don't think any stats here, are showing signs of death. Just signs of a new flurish in sales for Sony. :)

What I've said seems pretty obvious to me, So no doubt it's already been said somewhere in this thread :p

Totally agree, me pesonally, I agree with all the analysts that say the PS3 will outsell the 360 2009 onwards, but I also expect the 360 to carry on selling loads of consoles and providing 'healthy' competition to the PS3.. :)
 
The media where soooo wrong about the PS3, just makes me relise just how bad game editors and reviewers really are, the majority in major mag's are just clueless.

Look at EGM for example, hating Sony big style (1UP is part of the same network) as soon as Sales peak for Sony and it's been said it outsold 360, look at the latest mag's front cover at threespeech, all of a sudden pro sony.
 
The media where soooo wrong about the PS3, just makes me relise just how bad game editors and reviewers really are, the majority in major mag's are just clueless.

Look at EGM for example, hating Sony big style (1UP is part of the same network) as soon as Sales peak for Sony and it's been said it outsold 360, look at the latest mag's front cover at threespeech, all of a sudden pro sony.

To balance that, do you not think that the media just follow the day to day 'trends' of whatever is happening..

i.e. PS3 doesn't sell as well at launch as "expected" with "poor attach rate" the media reports this in the usual senstionalistic manner.. even though sales where still high numbers and attach rates where still adequate..

A year and a bit later, the PS3 is now selling pretty much 'as expected' (very well!) and the media is now reflecting this..

They will always jump on the current situation and back whatever is deemed to be 'doing well'...

Well that's how it seems to me..

I think as well there was a hiccup about the HYPE, all I kept hearing is how the PS3 was 'Twice as powerful' and the constant CGI showoffs at the shows, then when launched the realisation was something very different, and I think that soured some 'people'.. and I agree, this did show through some media peoples opinions, but they can't be damned for having a series of disappointments? or can they?

Presently, I'm glad to say that neither manufacturer is hyping things up falsely, and the games are starting to speak for themselves.. and this seems to be showing in the media.. gone are the 'dissapointments' and things have settled down..
 
The media are the same with anything. Like this britney spears business. When she's amazing, they adore her. When she's nutty, they tear her to pieces.

Video game Media, Celeb Media. It's all media, and they always go where the news is. And they will print what they think the people want to read.


I do have to say. THIS THREAD HAS BEEN INTERESTING.
 
LOL.. I think you are missing my 'humour'... I as chuckling all the time I was typing that one.. I don't take it seriously, at the end of the day it's a bit of banter, sorry if that isn't so evident.. ;) I did try and put a :D at the end to make sure you didn't take it too personally but evidently I missed the mark :)

And I'd have thought the 2000 cup holder :D comment in a previous post might have eluded to the fact I was being quite light hearted.....

The fact you kept on referring to my parents, when that was obviously a joke, implies otherwise:D:D:D
 
The fact you kept on referring to my parents, when that was obviously a joke, implies otherwise:D:D:D

Yes Frank, of course.. the fact that we both used smileys clearly shows how you where joking, and I wasn't ;)

I'll stop posting for a while, and give you time to calm down.. ;)

(If I use 4 grins :D :D :D :D in this post, does that mean I'm joking more then you? ;))
 
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