Poll: 2008 Brazilian GP - Race 18/18

Your prediction(s)?

  • Hamilton wins the race

    Votes: 68 24.0%

  • Massa wins the race

    Votes: 107 37.8%

  • Hamilton gets a puncture and loses everything

    Votes: 13 4.6%

  • Hamilton gets owned by the FIA's EMP weapon like last year and loses everything

    Votes: 40 14.1%

  • Hamilton is too hot headed at the start and loses everything

    Votes: 35 12.4%

  • Massa takes the refuelling rig with him again and loses everything

    Votes: 12 4.2%

  • Alonso takes out Hamilton and Hamilton loses everything

    Votes: 25 8.8%

  • Kimi takes out Hamilton and Hamilton loses everything

    Votes: 8 2.8%

  • Wet or partially wet race

    Votes: 116 41.0%

  • Dry race

    Votes: 14 4.9%

  • Some sort of penalty given to Hamilton

    Votes: 36 12.7%

  • Some sort of penalty given to Massa

    Votes: 5 1.8%
  • Total voters
    283
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Will he? Won't he? That's the big question. Will James Allan explode on Sunday evening? Will Felipe Massa prove the doubters wrong and add his name to an illustrious list of Brazilian Champions? Will DC make it to the end of his final GP without crashing on the first lap?

This weekend sees the end, or maybe the end, of a number of familiar aspects of the sport, some will be missed some won't. DC certainly falls into the former; adverts, James Allan and grooved tyres into the latter. Will we see Barichello in Melbourne, who knows. Will the economic climate take it's toll? You have to think that Toyota might just use the standard engine as an escape route.

There are goodbyes closer to home as well. I've decided that it's time to hang up the keyboard as far as starting the threads goes. It was fun for a while but the banter has been replaced by petty repetitive squabbling which I'm not prepared to provide a platform for.

But enough of the maudlin stuff, there's a championship to be won still!

Friday practice : 1200 - 1330 & 1600 - 1730
Saturday practice : 1300 - 1400
Saturday Qualifying : 1600 - 1700, ITV 1510 - 1730
Sunday Race : 0800 - 1000, ITV from 1600. Highlights at 2245 (ITV) & Monday 1800 (ITV4)



Drivers
Code: 
Pos Driver           Nationality   Team              Points 
1  Lewis Hamilton       British    McLaren-Mercedes   94
2  Felipe Massa		Brazilian  Ferrari	      87
3  Robert Kubica	Polish     BMW                75      
4  Kimi Raikkonen       Finnish    Ferrari            69
5  Nick Heidfeld        German     BMW                60
6  Fernando Alonso      Spanish    Renault            53
7  Heikki Kovelainen    Finnish    McLaren-Mercedes   51
8  Sebastian Vettel	German	   STR-Ferrari	      30
9  Jarno Trulli         Italian    Toyota             30
10 Timo Glock           German     Toyota             22	
11 Mark Webber          Australian RBR-Renault        21
12 Nelsinho Piquet	Brazilian  Renault	      19
13 Nico Rosberg         German     Williams-Toyota    17
14 Rubens Barrichello   Brazilian  Honda              11
15 Kazuki Nakajima   	Japanese   Williams-Toyota    9
16 David Coulthard	British	   RBR-Renault        8
17 Sebastien Bourdais   Italian    STR-Ferrari        4
18 Jenson Button	British	   Honda              3

Constructors
Code: 
Pos Team              Points    
1  Ferrari            156        
2  McLaren-Mercedes   145       
3  BMW                135       
4  Renault            72
5  Toyota             52
6  STR-Ferrari        34        
7  RBR-Renault        29       
8  Williams-Toyota    26        
9  Honda	      14

Calendar
Code: 
01 2008 FORMULA 1 ING AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX (Melbourne) 		14 - 16 Mar 
02 2008 FORMULA 1 PETRONAS MALAYSIAN GRAND PRIX (Kuala Lumpur) 		21 - 23 Mar 
03 2008 FORMULA 1 GULF AIR BAHRAIN GRAND PRIX (Bahrain) 		04 - 06 Apr 
04 FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE ESPANA TELEFONICA 2008 (Catalunya) 		25 - 27 Apr 
05 2008 FORMULA 1 PETROL OFISI TURKISH GRAND PRIX (Istanbul) 		09 - 11 May 
06 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE MONACO 2008 (Monte Carlo) 			22 - 25 May 
07 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DU CANADA 2008 (Montreal) 			06 - 08 Jun 
08 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE FRANCE 2008 (Magny-Cours) 			20 - 22 Jun 
09 2008 FORMULA 1 SANTANDER BRITISH GRAND PRIX (Silverstone) 		04 - 06 Jul 
10 FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2008 (Hockenheim) 	18 - 20 Jul 
11 FORMULA 1 ING MAGYAR NAGYDIJ 2008 (Budapest) 			01 - 03 Aug 
12 2008 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE (Valencia) 			22 - 24 Aug 
13 2008 FORMULA 1 ING BELGIAN GRAND PRIX (Spa-Francorchamps) 		05 - 07 Sep 
14 FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO SANTANDER D'ITALIA 2008 (Monza) 		12 - 14 Sep 
15 2008 FORMULA 1 SINGTEL SINGAPORE GRAND PRIX (Singapore) 		26 - 28 Sep 
16 2008 FORMULA 1 FUJI TELEVISION JAPANESE GRAND PRIX (Fuji Speedway) 	10 - 12 Oct 
17 2008 FORMULA 1 SINOPEC CHINESE GRAND PRIX (Shanghai) 		17 - 19 Oct 
18 FORMULA 1 GRANDE PREMIO DO BRASIL 2008 (Sao Paulo) 			31 Oct - 02 Nov





If you're interested in seeing what the tracks look like I've updated my Google Earth links and flyovers. Unfortunately it's still not perfect, although Fuji is now high res thanks to the April update but the imagery for Valencia is a fair age so the purpose built bridge isn't visible. To play the flyovers select the flyover folder and press the play button at the bottom of the Places pane.

Some links for Interlagos

Official GP Site
Wikipedia
Circuit details on the official F1 page
 
P1 times
Code: 
Pos  Driver       Car                       Time               Laps
 1.  Massa        Ferrari              (B)  1:12.305           24
 2.  Hamilton     McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:12.495  + 0.190  23
 3.  Raikkonen    Ferrari              (B)  1:12.507  + 0.202  18
 4.  Kubica       BMW Sauber           (B)  1:12.874  + 0.569  24
 5.  Kovalainen   McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:12.925  + 0.620  20
 6.  Alonso       Renault              (B)  1:13.061  + 0.756  25
 7.  Webber       Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:13.298  + 0.993  24
 8.  Piquet       Renault              (B)  1:13.378  + 1.073  39
 9.  Heidfeld     BMW Sauber           (B)  1:13.426  + 1.121  28
10.  Glock        Toyota               (B)  1:13.466  + 1.161  33
11.  Trulli       Toyota               (B)  1:13.600  + 1.295  24
12.  Rosberg      Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:13.621  + 1.316  23
13.  Bourdais     Toro Rosso-Ferrari   (B)  1:13.649  + 1.344  30
14.  Barrichello  Honda                (B)  1:13.676  + 1.371  28
15.  Button       Honda                (B)  1:13.766  + 1.461  13
16.  Nakajima     Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:13.806  + 1.501  24
17.  Vettel       Toro Rosso-Ferrari   (B)  1:13.836  + 1.531  30
18.  Coulthard    Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:13.861  + 1.556  19
19.  Sutil        Force India-Ferrari  (B)  1:14.704  + 2.399  21
20.  Fisichella   Force India-Ferrari  (B)  1:14.821  + 2.516  21
 
philjohn said:
Yeah, but the teams add ballast already to get the cars up to weight, do they not? They will be more limited where they can place the KERS device, but I wouldn't think the cars would be much heavier, and when all teams have them it'll not really matter one way or another. I'd ask how the RB KERS device was coming, but I'm sure you're not allowed to say!
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The KERS kit is reckoned to be of the order of 70KG which has to be either entirely next to the drive train in the case of a flywheel KERS or split between the drive train and under the fuel cell (by regulation) in the case of an electric KERS.

Now the teams think they'll need to move the weight forward to make use of the grip available in the slick front tyres. The question then becomes do we gain 0.3s with a potentially unreliable KERS or can we gain more than that by using ballast towards the front of the car? There isn't sufficient ballast available to move the weight distribution forward, have a KERS and keep to the minimum weight limit.

It's a pretty sure bet that KERS will not be fitted to every car on the grid at any point in 2009.
 
Overlag said:
Madness. Hope Gascoyne gets a job somewhere else
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Is Mike Gascoyne the world's worst person to employ or something?? He seems to have an inability to hold down a job for more than about 18 months.

Sure he hasn't made the strides up the grid that he did with Toyota but under his stewardship Force India have really closed the gap to the rest of the field. You do have to wonder if this is a precursor to a McLaren assistance deal which will likely see the influence of the Technical Director diminish.

EDIT: Didn't spot the official termination of the Ferrari deal before typing the above. Gascoyne's probably had a falling out with Mallya over that
 
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