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[TW]Fox;22897227 said:
Was referring to M3 and M5 that's all
2012 BMW 330d vs 335i
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Was referring to M3 and M5 that's all
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Well I was just saying in broader terms, a V6 or V8 would be smoother than a less powerful 4 pot or something hence why it makes sense to have them coupled to an electric motor for low speed town driving.
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Torque really isn't that fun. Torque is meant for when you want to be boring, have had a long day at work and want to effortlessly get home. The 335i can do this as well as the 330d, but also can do the revving to the redline while you grin like a 5 year old thing too.
335i with autobox costs £45 more a year to tax. Big. deal.
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What do you mean by "the drive"?
Because i've never heard anyone praise a 330d over a 335i in terms of drive. In terms of running costs, fair enough, but in terms of excitement and fun, no way. And since the only difference between the 330d and 335i is the engine(and the fact that the 330d is auto only, whereas you can get a 335i in manual), are you saying that the 330d's engine (with compulsory auto box) is better than the 335i's?
The drive is how nice it is to drive.
I have heard that the new 2012 330d is a joy to drive over and above the 335i.. Opinion based ofcourse.
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So? You're comparing two new cars, you can hardly penalise one for costing the same to service?
Not always true.
So? Please don't tell me you're buying into the moron tax? It's about £100 a year difference on a £35,000+ car!
Whilst I have no doubt the 330d is a very good car and an excellent drive in the grand scheme of things, I also have no doubt that the F30 335i will still be a better drive overall. It's just the way things are.
Go drive if the stats look so similar to you. Not a cat in hells chance that you'll see 57mpg out of once, my F10 is doing around 38mpg to 44mpg on long runs and most of the time it's in the 30's not the 40's so close to 60's would mean it was doing 50mpg on the motorway and had a trailer to put it on when it got to a hill.
335i every day
It's a shame the 328i isn't a 6cyl. but at the same time that's the only reason I'm actually able to get one as a company car. So BMW have actually put nice performing, low emission petrols back into the hands of those usually constrained to a 320d or whatever. When you think of it that way it's a pretty good compromise
It's a shame the 328i isn't a 6cyl. but at the same time that's the only reason I'm actually able to get one as a company car. So BMW have actually put nice performing, low emission petrols back into the hands of those usually constrained to a 320d or whatever. When you think of it that way it's a pretty good compromise
). Seems like a fantastic balance of price/performanceIt makes the traditional large engined saloon efficient and low tax. Whats not to get? Anyone after maximum economy would buy a 2 litre diesel not a Hybrid anyway.
When I put my 630 in for servicing I had an X3 335D courtesy car. The diesel obviously was not as quiet and refined as the petrol. When not in sport mode the diesel was also less responsive. However, in sport mode the diesel was just as responsive and made a better roar noise which surprised me the most. Plus you could really feel the power difference.
[TW]Fox;22897293 said:
Nooooo! Fox plays with the idea of buying a diesel.
A colleague of mine who makes a similar commute to myself in his 2008 330d coupe constantly complains about his mpg figures being worse than my 2001 330i saloon. His driving dynamics are comparable to mine, we both enjoy gentle driving with a mix of pushing the red line from time to time. As previously mentioned by Fox, not greatly scientific, but a good indication that although the diesels are probably entirely capable of achieving said quoted figures, they can't maintain them on the average run.
For example I managed 43mpg on a recent 200 mile trip to the lakes, but my average work commute is circa 31mpg.
His car is broken or his route is different. I'm a big advocate of diesel mpg being exagerated but there is no way that a 2008 330d isn't at least 5-10mpg better than a 2001 330i in any given circumstance.
For figures to work with, I manage 31/32 and he manages 30. The commute is very much the same as mine, with regards to dual carriageway and motorway miles. However, the route is different.
Our cars are both completely standard and have similar mileage. All things taken into consideration, there is a possibility he thrashes it everywhere on his commute. This, I couldn't account for.
Our cars are both completely standard and have similar mileage. All things taken into consideration, there is a possibility he thrashes it everywhere on his commute. This, I couldn't account for.
Or his Coolant and/or EGR thermostat(s) stuck open and his engines running 10-20c below optimal running temperature (which is quite common on diesel BMW's) causing lower MPG than he should be getting.
I would expect his car to get at least 36mpg unless he's thrashing it a lot!
Cheers
Caporegime
Well worth bumping an ancient thread for that reply.