20mb Virgin or 24mb ADSL?
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Before i got virgin in this house i would have always opted for cable, being a heavy gamer myself.
But man i have had to put gaming on hold here, during evenings and all weekend its pretty much unuseable for me for fps gaming, constant packet loss and crazy ping spiking/disconnecting.
Even at its best playing at dodgy times my latency is 30-50ms, whch compared to the 15-20ms all day every day that i used to get is pretty shocking.
I move again in august and i cannot imagine getting virgin cable again to be honest.
But man i have had to put gaming on hold here, during evenings and all weekend its pretty much unuseable for me for fps gaming, constant packet loss and crazy ping spiking/disconnecting.
Even at its best playing at dodgy times my latency is 30-50ms, whch compared to the 15-20ms all day every day that i used to get is pretty shocking.
I move again in august and i cannot imagine getting virgin cable again to be honest.
24/7 no slowdowns and no throttling or capping (did 150 gigs last month). Had some major line problems for a bit but I consider it a one off.
£7.34 a month on o2. I have a very average 31.5dB attenuation.
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Very Happy with my Virgin 10MB here. Low pings, great uptime, full speed 24/7/365
I download >100GB per month, almost never get shaped though - just put a scheduler on your Usenet or torrent client. With an RSS feed reader and the time difference American TV shows from the night before will be picked up automatically and waiting for you when you wake.
On the rare occasions that you do need a big download immediately being shaped to 25% normal speed for a few hours isn't going to kill you. Gaming, browsing, iPlayer, Youtube etc all work perfectly well.
Naturally, no caps is better, but with ADSL you're getting much worse pings. I get <15ms pings to uk servers on cable, my home adsl max connection struggles to get <35.
Plus who knows how long they will be cap-free anyway.
I download >100GB per month, almost never get shaped though - just put a scheduler on your Usenet or torrent client. With an RSS feed reader and the time difference American TV shows from the night before will be picked up automatically and waiting for you when you wake.
On the rare occasions that you do need a big download immediately being shaped to 25% normal speed for a few hours isn't going to kill you. Gaming, browsing, iPlayer, Youtube etc all work perfectly well.
Naturally, no caps is better, but with ADSL you're getting much worse pings. I get <15ms pings to uk servers on cable, my home adsl max connection struggles to get <35.
Plus who knows how long they will be cap-free anyway.
If the OP is considering bethere
http://broadband.o2.co.uk/home/index.jsp
O2 Premium for £14.68 a month with 3 months free. You can also get £40 via quidco.
This means on a 12 month contract you are paying £7.67 a month. Better than anything bethere can offer. O2 also have UK based customer support while bethere have theirs in hungary.
http://broadband.o2.co.uk/home/index.jsp
O2 Premium for £14.68 a month with 3 months free. You can also get £40 via quidco.
This means on a 12 month contract you are paying £7.67 a month. Better than anything bethere can offer. O2 also have UK based customer support while bethere have theirs in hungary.
And O2 has a 12 or is it 18 month contract, at least with Be* you're only tied into it for 3 months.
Either way I think it is retarded to sign up to 12+ months with a provider that has had such a varying level of service since launch, and the more over subscribed areas get the worse it will become.
But then its cheap and will probably be acceptable most of the time so what do you care if it is not good every now and then?
Either way I think it is retarded to sign up to 12+ months with a provider that has had such a varying level of service since launch, and the more over subscribed areas get the worse it will become.
But then its cheap and will probably be acceptable most of the time so what do you care if it is not good every now and then?
Yes, and hence the OP may as well go for the cheaper price.
Some crappy experience of ADSL you've got there.
I'm on a 24Mb service from Be* and I actually get slightly more than 24Mb. I get 24.6Mb.
Be* is a great ISP in my opinion, never had any issues with them, and they've got good support.
@OP
Feel free to poke around my Cacti site: http://willjones.eu/cacti/
That is for my Be connection synced at around 21.5Mbps / 1.4Mbps the really high ping spikes are mostly from where I have been doing big FTP uploads (i.e. saturating the upstream connection 100%).
Feel free to poke around my Cacti site: http://willjones.eu/cacti/
That is for my Be connection synced at around 21.5Mbps / 1.4Mbps the really high ping spikes are mostly from where I have been doing big FTP uploads (i.e. saturating the upstream connection 100%).
Luck of the draw with either really. Can't go far wrong with either.
Cable seems to be hit and miss, either it's excellent or horrible. Luckily I live in a good cable area and get constant 20mb apart from STM and have had no issues in the 6 years I've been with them.
Not many people can say that about their ISP.
Cable seems to be hit and miss, either it's excellent or horrible. Luckily I live in a good cable area and get constant 20mb apart from STM and have had no issues in the 6 years I've been with them.
Not many people can say that about their ISP.