223BW vs 226BW

mks2005

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Hey guys,

Finding it hard to choose between these two screens.

As far as I can tell - the main difference is that the 223BW doesn't have the overdrive boosting response times to 2ms like the 226BW, and instead remains at 5ms. And that it's 21.6" as opposed to 22" (which doesn't bother me.)

What I'm trying to determine is that will this lack of responsiveness be a noticable issue? I do play online games - including FPS games - so I would be picky about any notable lag. I haven't been able to track down input lag measurements for the 223BW but I note that the 226BW comes within 1.6ms on average compared to a CRT (thanks to TFTCentral!). I was wondering if anyone knows what sort of figure there is for the 223BW.

The 226BW comes at a higher price, and I was wondering if anyone can help me determine whether or not it's worth the extra for it, over the 223BW.

Cheers
 
How does it ?.

Is the same higher spec of that 226.


http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...&groupid=703&catid=17&subcat=949&name=Samsung SM-2253LW Aqua 21.6" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Glossy Black


Viewable Area: 21.6” Widescreen (1680x1050 Resolution)
- Interface: Analog / Digital
- Response Time: 2ms
- 16.7M Colours
- Contrast Ratio: 8000:1
- Viewing Angle (H/V): 170°/ 160°
- Brightness: 300cd/m2
- Analog and DVI cables supplied
- 3 Years On-Site Warranty with Samsung





http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...&groupid=703&catid=17&subcat=949&name=Samsung SM-2253BW Aqua 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Glossy Black


Viewable Area: 22” Widescreen (1680x1050 Resolution)
- Interface: Analog / Digital
- Response Time: 2ms
- 16.7M Colours
- Contrast Ratio: 8000:1
- Viewing Angle (H/V): 170°/ 160°
- Brightness: 300cd/m2
- 3 Years On-Site Warranty with Samsung
 
helmutcheese said:
How does it ?.

Is the same higher spec of that 226.


http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...&groupid=703&catid=17&subcat=949&name=Samsung SM-2253LW Aqua 21.6" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Glossy Black


Viewable Area: 21.6” Widescreen (1680x1050 Resolution)
- Interface: Analog / Digital
- Response Time: 2ms
- 16.7M Colours
- Contrast Ratio: 8000:1
- Viewing Angle (H/V): 170°/ 160°
- Brightness: 300cd/m2
- Analog and DVI cables supplied
- 3 Years On-Site Warranty with Samsung





http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...&groupid=703&catid=17&subcat=949&name=Samsung SM-2253BW Aqua 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Glossy Black


Viewable Area: 22” Widescreen (1680x1050 Resolution)
- Interface: Analog / Digital
- Response Time: 2ms
- 16.7M Colours
- Contrast Ratio: 8000:1
- Viewing Angle (H/V): 170°/ 160°
- Brightness: 300cd/m2
- 3 Years On-Site Warranty with Samsung
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Response time != input lag.
 
I was in a similar situation earlier this year and went for the 223BW. Very good monitor and I used a 226BW playing ut3 and couldn't tell ANY difference whatsoever....

Seriously, 5ms is pretty good.
 
philjohn said:
Response time != input lag.
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Hmm, I know that and that's why I quoted the 2ms and even then there is no set rule to measure it.

There is 3 points they can measure it at inc rise or fall of the pixel and 1 manu's 8ms can be anothers 20ms so its all BS IMO and they CAN all still lag in games or movies.

If you want no lag then buy a CRT. ;)

I have bought many of both the 223 and 226 and some are thrown together, the Aqua is said to be better all round and that is what I will get customers next time around after the last 226 and 223 which I was not happy with.

That's my FREE advise and all I can add.
 
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(Thanks to TFTCentral)

As you can see the 226BW is awesome with regards to input lag - but I can't find any figures for the 223BW anywhere :( But based on comments from gurusan it would appear to be similar - or at least only neglible in difference.

helmut you've definitely got me thinking about the aqua now, but I'm still curious as to how it performs in games - input lag would definitely frustrate me if noticable.
 
Well the Aqua is same/possibly higher spec as the 226, both are higher than the 223.

My next customer build will be getting an Aqua I gave up on the loose, bowed bezels on the 223/226
 
I haven't seen any published figures of lag for a 223BW or a 2253BW.

But if these 2 monitors really had lag as low as the 226BW then we would have heard about it by now.

And by lag, I mean comparing vs a CRT monitor in clone mode, running a timer and taking shots with a camera at 1/1000 shutter speed.
 
Take your time and don't buy then regret.

Google it and find out ASAP.

The 226 is old and the 22" Aqua is well £££ more than it, its only the 21.6" that's near same £££ so I seriously doubt its not same spec or better.
 
I've finally managed to find a decent website with actual data!!

http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=36&mo1=403&p1=3752&ma2=36&mo2=224&p2=2104&ph=12

Essentially, 2253BW input lag average is 19ms compared to 226BW's (insanely low) average of 1.6ms.

However, relative to other panels, 19ms is pretty good - and translates to what just over a single frame of lag?

Secondly - the panels seem very much the same on the basis that the 226BW was to contain an A or C panel. With calibration, the 2253BW is actually better than the 226BW, even the S panel - although the S panel is far better calibrated at stock settings.

So really, is the 19ms an issue as opposed to 1.6ms and is this worth £55 more? Seeing as I have a friend who may be able to lend me a calibrator to use, and the comments regarding superior build quality on the 2253BW, I must say I've changed my opinion.

For £165 I don't think I can resist.

Thanks for the advice helmut.
 
I have a 226BW got it cheap from Bstock(£185 posted 8months ago). Awsome monitor, nothing i have seen compares to it. Colour depth, image quality and m/s

You really really won't be dissapoiinted
 
mks2005 said:
I've finally managed to find a decent website with actual data!!

http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=36&mo1=403&p1=3752&ma2=36&mo2=224&p2=2104&ph=12

Essentially, 2253BW input lag average is 19ms compared to 226BW's (insanely low) average of 1.6ms.

However, relative to other panels, 19ms is pretty good - and translates to what just over a single frame of lag?

Secondly - the panels seem very much the same on the basis that the 226BW was to contain an A or C panel. With calibration, the 2253BW is actually better than the 226BW, even the S panel - although the S panel is far better calibrated at stock settings.

So really, is the 19ms an issue as opposed to 1.6ms and is this worth £55 more? Seeing as I have a friend who may be able to lend me a calibrator to use, and the comments regarding superior build quality on the 2253BW, I must say I've changed my opinion.

For £165 I don't think I can resist.

Thanks for the advice helmut.
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The 17ms is only an issue if you game online, as you can add that value to your ping.
 
pallys said:
Unless you play in an FPS clan which participates in leagues, then probably not worth the extra cost.
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Nope, not that serious :) I think the 2253BW is too cheap for me to ignore then.

1:1 pixel mapping is another plus point over the 226BW - however I note that there has been complaints regarding backlight bleed on the 2253BW - so hopefully I wont fall victim to that.
 
Went for the 2253BW in the end :)

Very pleased with my purchase - no dead pixels hooray!

Thanks for the recommendation helmut
 
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