24mb Broadband for me
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yoda is right.........soto you
So that's correct is it? CPW "created" the "equipment known as LLU".. What a load of garbage.
Thats what I mean't....
Basically, LLU system is basically a 'internet' type backbone... each exchange has a data link thus creating a network...
in the exchanges themselves, voice is converted to digital and 'carried' over the digital network...
ADSL2 is provided simply by routing the adsl data down the network backbone and out through a gateway onto the internet...
Other services suct as TV etc can be digitised and sent over the cable...
Basically, the system is one step away from a 'provider' giving you a digital connection to your house and you do what you want with it...
the whole backbone for the LLU system runs on the same principal to the internet and TCP/IP... for all we know, their backbone actually uses TCP/IP transport format....
Basically, LLU system is basically a 'internet' type backbone... each exchange has a data link thus creating a network...
in the exchanges themselves, voice is converted to digital and 'carried' over the digital network...
ADSL2 is provided simply by routing the adsl data down the network backbone and out through a gateway onto the internet...
Other services suct as TV etc can be digitised and sent over the cable...
Basically, the system is one step away from a 'provider' giving you a digital connection to your house and you do what you want with it...
the whole backbone for the LLU system runs on the same principal to the internet and TCP/IP... for all we know, their backbone actually uses TCP/IP transport format....
Griff's right, although he could've explained it... Most of what you've written is wrong.
LLU's a process where an ISP can colocate their equipment in a BT exchange.
That's it - it doesn't have to offer internet connectivity at all, and how the provider builds their network is up to them.
CPW is only one LLU provider as well, Be/O2, Bulldog and Sky/Easynet are others. CPW weren't even the first to the game.
Nope. ADSL2+ is provided by your line being connected to the LLUer's DSLAM instead of BT Wholesale's - it's got nothing to do with the backbone, and the process is exactly the same.
LLU's a process where an ISP can colocate their equipment in a BT exchange.
That's it - it doesn't have to offer internet connectivity at all, and how the provider builds their network is up to them.
CPW is only one LLU provider as well, Be/O2, Bulldog and Sky/Easynet are others. CPW weren't even the first to the game.
Nope. ADSL2+ is provided by your line being connected to the LLUer's DSLAM instead of BT Wholesale's - it's got nothing to do with the backbone, and the process is exactly the same.
I didn't say anything about BT wholesale....
I highly doubt that CPW would allow any provider to install any old crap into their nice brand new LLU 'racking'... in otherwords, they say here is the hardware, this is how much it costs... we provide these 'carrier links' at this price....
I highly doubt that CPW would allow any provider to install any old crap into their nice brand new LLU 'racking'... in otherwords, they say here is the hardware, this is how much it costs... we provide these 'carrier links' at this price....
haha the cheek !
if Sky / Be there can both offer ADSL 2+ (which is what this is) for under £20 a month. This company have got some to cheek to arrive at the ADSL2+ party a year late, and then charge practically double the cost !!
yoda said:
So? Thanks to Ofcom, they are just another LLU provider, though they have the same parent company as the people that own the exchange. Here's a hint: it isn't Carphone Warehouse.
Probably because a) it isn't their "racking", they just rent space from BT and b) CPW are just one of many LLU providers. You've also missed the point I made - other ISPs were doing LLU long before CPW.
AFAIK CPW don't even do wholesale access...
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i think they are digging up the pipes and replacing with new ones all over uk for better sewage pumping or something, scince they digging that up why not go ahead and do this
The fibre costs money, the kit at both ends costs money and given how much utilities get charged to dig holes, whoever built the network would have to make some contribution - just because the hole's there doesn't mean it's free to come along and chuck some fibre in.
Just chucking some fibre alongside your sewage pipes would not be a particularly good idea either...
At some point, Ofcom's going to have to make some statement that whoever builds a "Next Generation Network" is going to get some opportunity to recoup that massive investment, whether it's through grants/subsidies for less profitable areas or though reduced regulation.
Just chucking some fibre alongside your sewage pipes would not be a particularly good idea either...
At some point, Ofcom's going to have to make some statement that whoever builds a "Next Generation Network" is going to get some opportunity to recoup that massive investment, whether it's through grants/subsidies for less profitable areas or though reduced regulation.
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why not? any where is just as good to chuck some cables underground, and scince theres sewage pipes going to every building as they all have tolites, they can pay a fraction of what it would have cost in the first place but o well they already done some of the pipes so its too late now
just a suggestion 
What do you think happens if you need more fibre, or the fibre that's there breaks?
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cant recommend bethere enough if you have the option to use them instead, im about a mile from the exchange and getting a constant 17mb and 1.3mb connection and all unlimited for £18 a month