24P vs. Judder

[oHUTCHYo]

Been reading a lot on 24P and the technical details behind it, as well as the artistic differences in movie making versus video production.

As much as I hate seeing judder on panning scenes during a movie, I still prefer the overall look of the movie as opposed to playing it back at 24P which takes away the movie feel. I thought true 24P would be an improvement over the faux frame creation technology found in modern TVs, each manufacturer having their own name for it. To my eyes, it still gives that god awful soap opera effect.

Does anyone run 3:2 pull down like me or have you adjusted to 24P?

Just for reference sake, I'm using a Panny 50" G20 plasma and Kodi/HTPC.

 

[oHUTCHYo]

Seems like I'm alone, do you guys not find 24P to look a little odd? Maybe I'm a dinosaur and need to adapt!

One question, the movie I typically test with is 2Fast2Furious, not because it's a cinematic masterpiece but 1) its #1 in my library list 2) it starts with audio immediately and 3) the intro is quite animated.

Aside from the soap opera affect, I notice a massive change in pitch in the music between 24P and 50Hz. I sort of understand that the audio needs to be resampled to maintain sync. However when playing 24P the (hip-hop) music intro seems noticeably slower, then going back to 50Hz seems a more appropriate speed? How can I know for sure which way it is intended to sound?

 

[oHUTCHYo]

Hmmm...

IFC or Intelligent Frame Correction is I agree an awful technology. I'm wondering if when I say 24P there maybe some confusion. Let me explain...

On my Panny G20, I can set to Off/Min/Med/Max. Needless to say its always off.

When the Panny is fed a 24P signal, the IFC menu actually dissapears and is instead replaced with an alternative menu. "24P Smooth", which is either On/Off.

When set to 24P Smooth on, to my eyes it looks as bad as IFC. I'm now wondering, is 24P Smooth in actual fact still just another version of IFC and not true 24P display? I'm confused.

I'm about due another TV and see recommendations for 120Hz, so it is in fact a direct multiple of 24Ghz.

I think I need some more experimentation.