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2500k to 3570k?

IceShock

IceShock

IceShock

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Hey,

Alright, iv got a 2500k which I run @ 4.5ghz in summer, 5ghz in winter or just for benchies in summer, air cooled so its a pretty good clocker.
One of my friends motherboard just borked a bios update and its completely bricked so hes just going to go for a new x99 system, he said I could buy his 3570k for 60 quid, is it worth that? and is it worth upgrading to it? its 22nm and my 2500k is 32nm. both stock @ 3.4ghz, hes never overclocked it so I don't know how much of a good clocker it is, but do they generally clock as good as 2500k? and how much performance increase would I gain from it? etc

thanks :)
 
Pointless to be honest, marginally faster clock for clock, hotter and won't clock as well.

Supports PCIE 3.0 but again marginal performance benefit.
 
is it not worth picking up then for 60, and just de-lid it, I don't really want to de-lid my 2500k because its a good clocker. but if I keep my 2500k, and just de-lid the 3570k and give it a bit of a push clocking it, it would give me a bit more performance surely? and something to play around with benchmarking
 
If you've got a 2500k that does 5ghz then even with a delidded 3570k you're looking at a few percent increase if you get a good clocker.

For £60 it's a steal but I'm not sure I could be bothered with the effort. Depends on how much you want to tinker :)
 
its worth that all day.

most will do no bs epeen lies :p 4.4-4.5 24/7

so with the difference from sandy to latest being about 10- percent max its 200 - 400mhz on any i5.
 
IceShock said:
is it not worth picking up then for 60, and just de-lid it, I don't really want to de-lid my 2500k because its a good clocker. but if I keep my 2500k, and just de-lid the 3570k and give it a bit of a push clocking it, it would give me a bit more performance surely? and something to play around with benchmarking
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If you delid a Sandy Bridge chip you will distroy it, it's soldered is a 2500K (Sandy Bridge) not thermal paste as with Ivy and Haswell.


If you want to end up with a chip distoyed like this then go ahead, Haswell-E is soldered too.

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Also you are wasting your money going from Sandy Bridge to Ivy, you won't see any huge gains max +5% to +10% and that's if it overclocks well, it could even end up worse than what you have with the 2500K.
 
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For 60 its well worth a shot to play around with !!! Try delidding it, see if you get some fun out of overclocking it :) having 2 chips to compare is a luxury and also fun, the one you don't have, sell it after :)
 
If you have the money to spare and want to fiddle I say go for it. If not then don't bother for the 5% increase and a chance that it wont clock as much it is not worth it.
 
yeah, I think I might buy it and de-lid it and have a play around with it. its something to pass time I guess, and if I can get good clocks out of it de-lidded then that's a bonus!

also, planning on a h110 aswell, so ill be able to clock even further then :)
 
IceShock said:
Hey,

Alright, iv got a 2500k which I run @ 4.5ghz in summer, 5ghz in winter or just for benchies in summer, air cooled so its a pretty good clocker.
One of my friends motherboard just borked a bios update and its completely bricked so hes just going to go for a new x99 system, he said I could buy his 3570k for 60 quid, is it worth that? and is it worth upgrading to it? its 22nm and my 2500k is 32nm. both stock @ 3.4ghz, hes never overclocked it so I don't know how much of a good clocker it is, but do they generally clock as good as 2500k? and how much performance increase would I gain from it? etc

thanks :)
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I will keep it short. No
 
aye, Im gonna get it if he will actually let me have it for that price, though he said that amount so lets see if he sticks to it next time I bump into him :D

If I do de-lid it, and I got my self a H110 cooler, would it be easy to direct die contact mount the h110? I wouldn't be able to direct die my air cooler as it has ridged heat pipes, its a corsair A50
 
I would buy it and see how well it overclocks. And if the temps are stupid then you could try de lidding it. £60 is a steal of a price.

However don't expect much of a noticeable performance jump - if any at all.

Just for personal interest, what vcore do you run your 2500K at to get 5GHz? I doubt mine will ever reach that speed but I would like to try.
 
Disco_P said:
I would buy it and see how well it overclocks. And if the temps are stupid then you could try de lidding it. £60 is a steal of a price.

However don't expect much of a noticeable performance jump - if any at all.

Just for personal interest, what vcore do you run your 2500K at to get 5GHz? I doubt mine will ever reach that speed but I would like to try.
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for 4.5ghz 24 hour prime stable, my chip only requires 1.280v but for 5ghz which I have run for 12 hrs prime stable dur in winter (my computer room is quite cold in winter, as we have a wood burning stove and this room is furthest from it, don't really use central heating unless its really cold), and it requires 1.4v exactly for 12 hour primed stable, and its never had a bsod when I run it at that in winter on air. and load temps never go over 70c with my A50 and sp120. Though, one core does, its about 4-7c hotter than the rest so when all other cores max out at 70c, that one some times hits 76-77c, must be a uneven IHS, because iv re-seated it a few times over the years when moving case etc, and it has always had the exact same temperature difference.

But yeah, on windows I generally don't see any difference in speed from 4.5ghz to 5ghz, as you would expect, only difference is in benchmarks, ill run it at 5ghz for benchmarks in summer, but in winter, if I run a benchmark, iv tend to generally just leave it at 5ghz after running a benchmark until the ambient warms up around spring, my computer is the room heater dur in winter lol

Hope that helps :)

Edit: I have thought about lapping this 2500k, especially for when I get a H110, just so that one core isn't hotter than the others. but if im getting this 3570k to play with, then ill just leave this 2500k as standard because I don't really want to wreck it, as it is a beauty of a clocker, and its served me well, since the first day I got this chip in 2011 I have ran it at 4.5ghz, then 5ghz for benchmarks and all winter on the same A50 cooler.
 
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