2500k v 3570k

MrJohnSherry · 26 Apr 2013 at 20:37

Ok guys, I know a few of you guys advised against upgrading CPU at this moment in time and told to wait for the haswell chips, but I don't think I could honestly afford that chip when released. So basically, which is better? Which chip runs cooler? (I have a Arctic 7 Rev 2 fan)

Both are the exact same price, Thanks !

Something Else · 26 Apr 2013 at 20:43

the 2500k runs cooler

but the 3570k doesnt need as high clock speed for the same performance.

the cpu cooler will be fine for around 4.5 at a push on the 3570k

I would get the 3570k now as its slightly better than the 2500k. or get another couple posts and buy a second hand 2500k off the mm for around £100-£120

Orcvader · 27 Apr 2013 at 01:23

The 3570K runs cooler on stock, but the 2500K runs cooler when overclocked.

Both CPUs share the same architecture, but the 3570K uses a smaller process and is tweaked for better performance.

Just get the 3570K, it's the better and newer CPU.

tbh · 27 Apr 2013 at 02:00

MrJohnSherry said:
Ok guys, I know a few of you guys advised against upgrading CPU at this moment in time and told to wait for the haswell chips, but I don't think I could honestly afford that chip when released.

Haswell processors should be released at a similar price point to the Ivy Bridge processors which they replace.

MrJohnSherry · 27 Apr 2013 at 10:40

tbh said:
Haswell processors should be released at a similar price point to the Ivy Bridge processors which they replace.

But I would have to replace MB wouldn't I ? I assumed so?

Doomedspeed · 27 Apr 2013 at 10:58

MrJohnSherry said:
But I would have to replace MB wouldn't I ? I assumed so?

Yes, Haswell will be 1150, where as Sandy/Ivy is 1155.

Gazzaridis · 27 Apr 2013 at 17:31

I'm running a 3570k @ 4.1Ghz atm and with the Hyper 212 Evo I havent noticed it getting about 55~ degrees under heavy load

MrJohnSherry · 27 Apr 2013 at 23:56

Doomedspeed said:
Yes, Haswell will be 1150, where as Sandy/Ivy is 1155.

Which drives the price up sadly

Bromhead · 28 Apr 2013 at 01:56

Out of the two, 3570k is your best bet if you want to stick with your motherboard. What CPU have you got in it at the moment?

Leprechaun312 · 28 Apr 2013 at 01:59

3570k is hotter but it is better at the same clock speed as the 2500k

MrJohnSherry · 28 Apr 2013 at 19:17

Bromhead said:
Out of the two, 3570k is your best bet if you want to stick with your motherboard. What CPU have you got in it at the moment?

i5-2320 mate.

wazza300 · 28 Apr 2013 at 19:45

your looking at around 300mhz more clock for clock with ivybridge over sandybridge

olivier renault · 29 Apr 2013 at 09:38

MrJohnSherry said:
i5-2320 mate.

Is there a particular reason you want to upgrade? It sounds a bit marginal, especially considering the expense. Then you'll need a decent CPU cooler. And it also depends on the motherboard. unless you have a Z77 (or Z68), it's kinda pointless since you can't overclock.

So all in all, you are looking at an expensive upgrade, for not much gain. Best wait for Haswell, or if you feel it's too slow, look at better alternatives (a 2700K maybe, even more expenses but at least justified).

MrJohnSherry · 29 Apr 2013 at 11:38

olivier renault said:
Is there a particular reason you want to upgrade? It sounds a bit marginal, especially considering the expense. Then you'll need a decent CPU cooler. And it also depends on the motherboard. unless you have a Z77 (or Z68), it's kinda pointless since you can't overclock.

So all in all, you are looking at an expensive upgrade, for not much gain. Best wait for Haswell, or if you feel it's too slow, look at better alternatives (a 2700K maybe, even more expenses but at least justified).

Some games just run a bit laggy, especially MMO's , and considering that's the majority of the games I play - can be a bit of a problem

I could probably stretch to the 2700k, if you really recommend it? Or would the gains not be big enough for that sort of outlay?

apeksdiver · 29 Apr 2013 at 11:46

MrJohnSherry said:
Some games just run a bit laggy, especially MMO's , and considering that's the majority of the games I play - can be a bit of a problem I could probably stretch to the 2700k, if you really recommend it? Or would the gains not be big enough for that sort of outlay?

I doubt the gains are worth the outlay. What GPU do you have?

MrJohnSherry · 29 Apr 2013 at 11:56

apeksdiver said:
I doubt the gains are worth the outlay. What GPU do you have?

I have a 2GB Gigabyte 7850 mate!

Venares · 29 Apr 2013 at 13:21

MrJohnSherry said:
Some games just run a bit laggy, especially MMO's , and considering that's the majority of the games I play - can be a bit of a problem I could probably stretch to the 2700k, if you really recommend it? Or would the gains not be big enough for that sort of outlay?

Define laggy?

MMO's can feel laggy or jerky at times as they tend to try to stream a lot of information from disk to cpu/gpu pretty much constantly.
Are you running from mechanical drives or SSD's?
If mechanical, moving to an SSD would greatly improve the experiance.

sean · 29 Apr 2013 at 18:44

MrJohnSherry said:
Some games just run a bit laggy, especially MMO's , and considering that's the majority of the games I play

MMO performance is often rather CPU-bound and I know from experience that Guild Wars 2- for example- will quite happily eat all the CPU power you're willing to throw at it. If you already have a Z68 board a used 2500K clocked to 4.4 would likely provide a healthy performance boost

MrJohnSherry · 29 Apr 2013 at 22:37

Venares said:
Define laggy?

MMO's can feel laggy or jerky at times as they tend to try to stream a lot of information from disk to cpu/gpu pretty much constantly.
Are you running from mechanical drives or SSD's?
If mechanical, moving to an SSD would greatly improve the experiance.

Jerky/stuttery! I would just normally describe it as lag

Oh reallys? I am running it all from a mechanical drive.

olivier renault · 30 Apr 2013 at 00:24

MrJohnSherry said:
Jerky/stuttery! I would just normally describe it as lag Oh reallys? I am running it all from a mechanical drive.

Can be difficult to find the bottleneck. It's possible it's CPU related. Best is to look at the CPU, GPU, memory load while gaming.