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2600x only hitting 3900 Mhz on all cores during Gaming

ywvlf

ywvlf

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Hey guys,
my new Ryzen CPU settles at a constant 3900/3925 or (max.) 3950Mhz during gaming (Battlefield V) and never ever hits sth over at or over 4Ghz (only in the menu once, on all cores), thus bottlenecking my 2070s in 1440 far more earlier than it has to. The temps during Gaming are around 60°C, my Mainboard is an MSI B450 Tomahawk with the latest Bios before they switched to lite due to new CPU support.

I see in HWMonitor (Maximum column), that every single core is capable of boosting to around 4,20 but shouldnt they all be nearer to that on a constant level, when the temp is alright?

Power plan is balanced, what can I do to make PBO boost higher? Or should i even disable it (like its here and there) and increase the PPT and co.

Could you help me with that, since I am really not the biggest expert there :l

Thanks much!!
 
What's your RAM setting? For Battlefield try Maximum Power option in Windows. Use HWINFO64 instead of HWmonitor.

Also, have you tried an all-core oc of 4 or 4.1 GHz? The 2600X should be capable.
 
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Thanks for the fastt reply everyone!

Orange Nexus said:
What's your RAM setting? For Battlefield try Maximum Power option in Windows. Use HWINFO64 instead of HWmonitor.

Also, have you tried an all-core oc of 4 or 4.1 GHz? The 2600X should be capable.
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RAM is running at 3200. I heard that Balanced Power is the best setting for PBO - shouldnt it boost to 4,2 there? Also I dont know how to OC, could u help me with that? PBO needs to be disabled then right?


wellibob said:
As above. Set all cores to 4ghz, volts to 1.34. Try. Then increase as nessasary (I'd not go above 1.36v myself)
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Wont the cores then stick to 4 ghz all the time? I still want them to downclock.

Also, I use HWINFO64 (wrote it wrong). Here are some values from Cinebench and from normal usage.
https://ibb.co/4ZrvTqY
https://ibb.co/4jrD5cZ
 
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ywvlf said:
Thanks for the fastt reply everyone!


RAM is running at 3200. I heard that Balanced Power is the best setting for PBO - shouldnt it boost to 4,2 there? Also I dont know how to OC, could u help me with that? PBO needs to be disabled then right?




Wont the cores then stick to 4 ghz all the time? I still want them to downclock.

Also, I use HWINFO64 (wrote it wrong). Here are some values from Cinebench and from normal usage.
https://ibb.co/4ZrvTqY
https://ibb.co/4jrD5cZ
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We have different motherboards but the BIOS might look similar. Your Gen 1+ is an X version and should need less vcore at same oc as the non X (2600) but try 1.38v at first and just lower it down until it loses stability.

So, under Ai Tweaker, i just set my CUSTOM CPU Core Ratio to Auto, CPU Core Ratio to 40 (for 4GHz OC), set the VDDCR CPU Voltage to Offset mode, set the VDDCR CPU Offset Mode Sign to +, And add 0.38v (base stock voltage is 1.000v for the R7 2700).

https://i.imgur.com/N7xIgbu.png

Last, go to DIGI-VRAM, and set LLC to Level 4 (you have to look for LLC in your BIOS and levels might not be exactly same).

https://i.imgur.com/y03VVBy.png

HWINFO should read vcore close to BIOS setting.

https://i.imgur.com/fFR1fcS.jpg

I have my Power options set to High but my Minimum Processor State under Advance power option is at 5%.

As soon as you get back to Windows, if it boots fine, open up HWINFO and check your VCORE (SVI2 VN) and your CPU temp. Highlight them so they are easy to see.
 
You might find this is simply down to the motherboard - I'm not overly familiar with this side of things but when I built some 2600(X) systems some of the older boards, 350 I think but it was awhile back, could just select a couple of performance enhancement options in the BIOS and get just under 4.2GHz while on some of the newer boards wouldn't go over 4GHz.
 
Orange Nexus said:
We have different motherboards but the BIOS might look similar. Your Gen 1+ is an X version and should need less vcore at same oc as the non X (2600) but try 1.38v at first and just lower it down until it loses stability.

So, under Ai Tweaker, i just set my CUSTOM CPU Core Ratio to Auto, CPU Core Ratio to 40 (for 4GHz OC), set the VDDCR CPU Voltage to Offset mode, set the VDDCR CPU Offset Mode Sign to +, And add 0.38v (base stock voltage is 1.000v for the R7 2700).

https://i.imgur.com/N7xIgbu.png

Last, go to DIGI-VRAM, and set LLC to Level 4 (you have to look for LLC in your BIOS and levels might not be exactly same).

https://i.imgur.com/y03VVBy.png

HWINFO should read vcore close to BIOS setting.

https://i.imgur.com/fFR1fcS.jpg

I have my Power options set to High but my Minimum Processor State under Advance power option is at 5%.

As soon as you get back to Windows, if it boots fine, open up HWINFO and check your VCORE (SVI2 VN) and your CPU temp. Highlight them so they are easy to see.
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Thanks mate. But in my Bios there is no VDDCR item. Do you mean the normal voltage? If so, why are we increasing it, when you stated before, that we want to lower it?

Also LLC is not present in my bios.

I attached some Bios screens.
https://ibb.co/PDKPD1S
https://ibb.co/jb3Hw6X
https://ibb.co/rbj7wCz
 
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ywvlf said:
RAM is running at 3200. I heard that Balanced Power is the best setting for PBO - shouldnt it boost to 4,2 there? Also I dont know how to OC, could u help me with that? PBO needs to be disabled then right?
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ywvlf said:
I still want them to downclock.
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You want the best for your 2600X and you still want it to downclock in idle.Here is how to get the highest clocks when gaming and still downclock in idle.Also I included CPU ratio with fixed clock and CPU/SOC Offset voltage and in video how to overclock 2600X on MSI motherboard with download in description for all BIOS settings.

Trying to run with too aggressive CPU/SOC offset voltage may have no effect at all ,AMD CPU will ignore settings

CPU/SOC Offset Voltage Settings For Downclocking Through Window Power Plan When Computer Is Idle.
CPU Ratio Set to Auto
CPU/SOC Offset Voltage Set To -0.0750 (off course you can change this value and test)


You can also do CPU/SOC Offset Voltage with fixed CPU Ratio like below

In BIOS CPU Multi set to 42.50
Auto voltage would be around 1.45 on CPU and 1.15 on SOC.

With a CPU Offset voltage of -0.0500 and SOC voltage of -0.0500 when booted to desktop CPU Offset Voltage will be around 1.40 and SOC Offset Voltage will be around 1.11


You can also do CPU/SOC Offset Voltage with fixed CPU Ratio like this

Added another -0.0250 to CPU/SOC offset voltage to previous -0.0500
With a CPU Offset voltage of -0.0750 and SOC voltage of -0.0750 when booted to desktop CPU Offset Voltage will now be around 1.38 and SOC Offset Voltage will be around 1.08


How To Overclock 2600X with MSI Motherboard,all BIOS settings for download in description.
 
Damn! Really appreciate the effort, mate. Will try to honor this by succeeding in any form, when trying this out tomorrow or the day after.
So there are 3 ways to do it, right? How will I set the PBO settings and stuff, when manually oc'ing? Is the first one described by you the "best"?
 
ywvlf said:
RAM is running at 3200. I heard that Balanced Power is the best setting for PBO - shouldnt it boost to 4,2 there?
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Not on all cores, no. That's not how PBO works.

3900mhz all core sounds about right for PBO. 2600x base clock is 3600mhz, so PBO is getting you an extra 300mhz. Improving your cooling might get you a little higher - PBO starts tailing off the clocks north of 50c.

The max boost clock on a 2600x is 4.2ghz, but that's only on single core/light workloads. It won't boost that high on all cores.
 
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ywvlf said:
Hey guys,
my new Ryzen CPU settles at a constant 3900/3925 or (max.) 3950Mhz during gaming (Battlefield V) and never ever hits sth over at or over 4Ghz (only in the menu once, on all cores), thus bottlenecking my 2070s in 1440 far more earlier than it has to. The temps during Gaming are around 60°C, my Mainboard is an MSI B450 Tomahawk with the latest Bios before they switched to lite due to new CPU support.

I see in HWMonitor (Maximum column), that every single core is capable of boosting to around 4,20 but shouldnt they all be nearer to that on a constant level, when the temp is alright?

Power plan is balanced, what can I do to make PBO boost higher? Or should i even disable it (like its here and there) and increase the PPT and co.

Could you help me with that, since I am really not the biggest expert there :l

Thanks much!!
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Most of the 2600x should be capable of 4.15-4.3 GHz allcore (with a bit of + on vcore) and let Cool"n"Quiet to downlock when idle.
 
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