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2700 v 2700x

almostgfx

almostgfx

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Hi guys, Im planning a new build from am3 to am4 and im looking at getting a Ryzen 7 2700.
I could stretch the extra £60 to get the 2700x but will i notice a massive difference?

Build is just used for gaming mainly but other than that just general browsing the internet etc. If getting the 2700x over the 2700 is only going to get me 10 more fps then i wont be too bothered.
Rest of the build currently planned as followed.

Not planning to overclock either.

ASUS ROG STRIX X470-F
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 16GB 3000 MHz DDR4

Will be keeping my current gpu
Asus RX580 STRIX OC 8GB


Thanks!
 
 
If you're not planning to overclock then I'd get the X personally.

Better off getting the 2700 and slapping a mild overclock on it though.
 
Minstadave said:
If you're not planning to overclock then I'd get the X personally.

Better off getting the 2700 and slapping a mild overclock on it though.
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for an extra £30 though, i'm of the opinion that the 2700x is a better choice, even with manual overclocking, due to the chance of getting better silicon. #siliconlottery
and also a better boxed cooler, which can be pawned away to bring the cost down further, and within £10-15 of the 2700 (even if you sell the 2700's cooler too - but it's not worth as much as the 2700x's cooler)
 
I went from an FX-8350 to a Ryzen 7 2700. My reasons for not going for the 2700x instead were:

- 2700x was nearly £100 more expensive at the time
- Gaming at 3440x1440 @ 60 hz - so GPU/monitor bottlenecked
- Nice low power consumption @ stock compared to the 2700x
- Already had a Corsair H90 CPU water cooler, so stock HSF was irrelevant (2700 @ stock speed in Prime95 maxes out at 50 C with the H90)
- Figured I can O/C to 2700x levels when/if it becomes necessary

XFR seems to be doing a fine job though and the 2700 is nowhere near being a bottleneck for any gaming on my system. If the 2700x had only been £30 more expensive it'd have been tougher justifying going for the 2700, but that wasn't the case at the time.
 
tamzzy said:
silly choice:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £624.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)
​

smarter choice (and £90 cheaper too!):
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £535.43 (includes shipping: £10.50)
​
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I know you quoted this before but i dont want an MSI board and i want the corsair ram so.. Shopping around too so wont all be coming from OCUK im afraid as i can find better prices on some stuff elsewhere
 
almostgfx said:
Hi guys, Im planning a new build from am3 to am4 and im looking at getting a Ryzen 7 2700.
I could stretch the extra £60 to get the 2700x but will i notice a massive difference?

Build is just used for gaming mainly but other than that just general browsing the internet etc. If getting the 2700x over the 2700 is only going to get me 10 more fps then i wont be too bothered.
Rest of the build currently planned as followed.

Not planning to overclock either.

ASUS ROG STRIX X470-F
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 16GB 3000 MHz DDR4

Will be keeping my current gpu
Asus RX580 STRIX OC 8GB


Thanks!
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Not significant performance difference between a 65W 2700 and a 105W 2700X, this is for sure.
If you need more performance, you can overclock the 2700 to the 2700X levels.
 
Only other benefit of the X is that you can improve core boost by playing around with the BCLK.

Single core boost of 4.5Ghz is viable.
 
It all comes down to the motherboard imho. If you got or buy a motherboard with a stupid/bad bios like there is on my gigabyte b450 Auros M then for sure pay for the X variant and if you got/buy a proper board with a proper bios with proper voltage control, host clock settings and LLC etc. then the non x is just as fast if you overclock it.
 
Phixsator said:
It all comes down to the motherboard imho. If you got or buy a motherboard with a stupid/bad bios like there is on my gigabyte b450 Auros M then for sure pay for the X variant and if you got/buy a proper board with a proper bios with proper voltage control, host clock settings and LLC etc. then the non x is just as fast if you overclock it.
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I would pay the extra and get the X version. I have always been unlucky ocking
 
i recently moved to 2700x with X470-F Strix (and the expensive 8 pack ram)

I went for 2700x over 2700 for the better cooler and the thought that if the 2700 are binned then arguably the silicone lottery should be better with the 2700x. All the talk of manual OC-ing the 2700 to match a 2700x - but surely the same manual oc-ing would/could push the 2700x further? (dunno, not messed with OC-ing other than PB2 yet)

I also went for the X470 Strix as i thought it was a decent board for future options. I read at the time that pretty much all B450 boards have poor VRMs in comparison, so thought the X470 Strix has better possibility of working (better) with the upcoming 3000 and 4000 AMD chips. (I think Strix is 8+2 VRM opposed to MSI Carbon's 4+2 - I have to admit, this means little to me, but on the face of it the Strix has more and thus, erm, better?!?)

Yes, I know, every penny counts, but when looking at the total cost of a pc, the cost difference between 2700 and 2700x is trivial, so thought what the hell and go with it.
 
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DereksDontRun said:
i recently moved to 2700x with X470-F Strix (and the expensive 8 pack ram)

I went for 2700x over 2700 for the better cooler and the thought that if the 2700 are binned then arguably the silicone lottery should be better with the 2700x. All the talk of manual OC-ing the 2700 to match a 2700x - but surely the same manual oc-ing would/could push the 2700x further? (dunno, not messed with OC-ing other than PB2 yet)

I also went for the X470 Strix as i thought it was a decent board for future options. I read at the time that pretty much all B450 boards have poor VRMs in comparison, so thought the X470 Strix has better possibility of working (better) with the upcoming 3000 and 4000 AMD chips. (I think Strix is 8+2 VRM opposed to MSI Carbon's 4+2 - I have to admit, this means little to me, but on the face of it the Strix has more and thus, erm, better?!?)

Yes, I know, every penny counts, but when looking at the total cost of a pc, the cost difference between 2700 and 2700x is trivial, so thought what the hell and go with it.
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To be fair, the Strix X470-F is considered on a par with the B450I Gaming Plus according to the AM4 VRM tier list (both high end): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-ZwVuH_tinzgpsOdfMvYeCLI5ZbIpnq5fyiWD4NCkkU/edit#gid=0

There's several B450s alleged to be better VRM-wise than some X470s on there, especially MSI B450s.

Regarding O/Cing, I believe Ryzen is nearly at its max speed in general with the 2700X at 4.25 GHz, hence why you don't see people achieving anywhere near the type of O/Cs you can get with Intels, no matter how lucky you get in the silicone lottery/how well binned it is. By extension the 2700 is theoretically more likely to have some wiggle room.

On your last point, then yes the price difference between the 2700 & 2700X is currently trivial again (rather than being close to £100 apart like they were just before CES I believe).
 
There's very little between the 2700 and the 2700X when both overclocked.

The 2700X has far less headroom as it's a higher power chip pushed close to the limit of the silicon. The 2700 has far less agressive boost clocks as it's only a 65W chip. Once you overclock the 2700 and through the 65W limit in the bin you get very similar results.
 
Minstadave said:
There's very little between the 2700 and the 2700X when both overclocked.

The 2700X has far less headroom as it's a higher power chip pushed close to the limit of the silicon. The 2700 has far less agressive boost clocks as it's only a 65W chip. Once you overclock the 2700 and through the 65W limit in the bin you get very similar results.
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Depends on luck of the draw. The 2700x has a better cooler included which you can sell on for like £20 - £30.

Its at present like £45 difference. You also get a free game with both variants - Division 2.
 
Azrael1 said:
Depends on luck of the draw. The 2700x has a better cooler included which you can sell on for like £20 - £30.

Its at present like £45 difference. You also get a free game with both variants - Division 2.
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I'll be using my h105 to cool the CPU so the cooler included will be going anyway
 
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