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2700x CH6 Overclocking help

kitfit1 said:
When you load the stilts safe settings, your ram voltage and ram boot voltage will be set to 1.4v don't change it. Same here as well, CPU and SOC LLC set to 3. It was the same with the 1700 as well.
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I don't have a CH6 board. So will be doing this manually on my Prime Pro X370.

So 1.4v on the ram and boot voltage.
SOC auto.

Sounds easy. :D

I'll update when my pc starts crashing. :p

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Do I need all the secondary timings too or will 3333MHz 14-14-14-30-52 suffice and leave the rest on auto?

Link.

Is the Fast 3333MHz tougher to achieve?
 
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One thing I found with these mobo's, CPU's and RAM, is the memory controller may not like the divider being used between your clock speed and ram frequency, for instance, running my 1700 on an x470 motherboard with my ram at 2933mhz failed every test I threw at it, this created a divider of 1:16, but running my CPU with tweaked voltages at 4ghz with RAM at 2933mhz, passed everything, Cinebench, 9 Hours of Prime 95, 20 passes of IBT Max, 12 hours of AIDA64, go figure, its all about finding the sweet spots.
 
Jamin280672 said:
One thing I found with these mobo's, CPU's and RAM, is the memory controller may not like the divider being used between your clock speed and ram frequency, for instance, running my 1700 on an x470 motherboard with my ram at 2933mhz failed every test I threw at it, this created a divider of 1:16, but running my CPU with tweaked voltages at 4ghz with RAM at 2933mhz, passed everything, Cinebench, 9 Hours of Prime 95, 20 passes of IBT Max, 12 hours of AIDA64, go figure, its all about finding the sweet spots.
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Finding "The Sweet Spot" is exactly what clocking is about, always has been and always will be. What works for one setup, won't work for exactly the same setup of someone else. All anyone can do is keep plugging away until that sweet spot appears as if by magic. As clockers, all we can do on here is point peeps towards what we have done and hope it helps them get to their sweet spot.
 
kitfit1 said:
Finding "The Sweet Spot" is exactly what clocking is about, always has been and always will be. What works for one setup, won't work for exactly the same setup of someone else. All anyone can do is keep plugging away until that sweet spot appears as if by magic. As clockers, all we can do on here is point peeps towards what we have done and hope it helps them get to their sweet spot.
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Yes but this is what I was saying, who'd of thought 3.9ghz would fail everything, but 4ghz = even faster, passed everything, people usually back off on their clocks on failures, and just by chance I decided to run 1 test, IBT standard at 4ghz, even I was shocked when it passed that is why I proceeded to tweak and run further tests.

@opethdisciple I wouldn't personally leave SoC voltage on Auto, I wouldn't trust any major voltage for the board to manage, mine is 1.12v, even AMD themselves recommend raising it to 1.100v, max is 1.20v
 
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opethdisciple said:
I don't have a CH6 board. So will be doing this manually on my Prime Pro X370.

So 1.4v on the ram and boot voltage.
SOC auto.

Sounds easy. :D

I'll update when my pc starts crashing. :p

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Do I need all the secondary timings too or will 3333MHz 14-14-14-30-52 suffice and leave the rest on auto?

Link.

Is the Fast 3333MHz tougher to achieve?
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Does your Prime Pro X370 even have the stilts ram settings as an option ?
 
Jamin280672 said:
@opethdisciple I wouldn't personally leave SoC voltage on Auto, I wouldn't trust any major voltage for the board to manage, mine is 1.12v, even AMD themselves recommend raising it to 1.100v, max is 1.20v
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You are wrong. If there is ONE major voltage you can trust the CH6 to handle, it's SOC. Mine auto sets to 1.14v with level 3 LLC applied with the 2700x, with the 1700 i had it auto set to 1.1v with the same level 3 LLC applied. Auto on SOC has always worked for my mobo, the only difference has been the cpu.
 
kitfit1 said:
Then you are a bit knackered as the saying goes. Lets hope that Ram voltage at 1.4v and the basic timings with all the rest on Auto does the trick.
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I'll try it.

I'll also set LLC on CPU and soc to 3. I only use 1 on SOC presently.

Shame I didn't know about LLC before I sold my 1700.

No one mentioned it on here. Poor IMC I was told.

Was getting nowhere with this ram untill someone on a different forum told me to set the LLC.

Night and day difference.
 
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I use 1.4v ram voltage and 1.42v ram boot voltage, the little extra on boot stopped some training issues but 1.4v is fine once up and running.
 
SupraWez said:
I use 1.4v ram voltage and 1.42v ram boot voltage, the little extra on boot stopped some training issues but 1.4v is fine once up and running.
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yep. 1.4v is a catch all voltage for B-die. It either works or it dosn't depending on how far you push the ram clock at CL14. Mine will go to 3400 easily, 3500 needs a drop to tRAS 34 and trc 54, but still at the same basic timmings. Not tried 3600 yet, but shure as hell will do.
 
Getting weird slow downs in league of legends and a toaster could run that, put everything back to stock will see if that cures.
 
@kitfit1

Oh well. 14 14 14 14 30 52 @ 3333MHz 1.4v gave me HCI errors after about 10 mins.

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Trying it again, this time with SOC LLC 3 and ProcODT at 60.

What do you think is the right ProcODT to use for this ram?

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Nope. Errors. I'll just settle at 320MHz. I still havent found 100% stability here yet.

I've actually bumped the volts up to 1.4v and added the ProcODT 60 as well as SOC LLC 3 as the DOCP settings at 3200MHz games freeze on me.

But it's strange. Sometimes I play for 3 hours no problem other 20mins and freeze.

Only got two game mind and the freezing/crash generally only happens in Origins. so hard to tell if game or ram. But I bet it's ram.
 
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Leave ALL the settings other than 14-14-14-30-52 on Auto, that includes ProcODT. I'm assuming you are using the latest bios on your mobo ?
 
kitfit1 said:
Leave ALL the settings other than 14-14-14-30-52 on Auto, that includes ProcODT. I'm assuming you are using the latest bios on your mobo ?
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When you say 14 14 14 30 52 arent there meant to be four 14s? Link.

I'll try again tonight but even the 3200MHz DOCP profile isn't stable yet. I keep getting freezes.

So I've bumped the dram to 1.4v added procodt 60 and SOC LLC 3.

Quite disappointed really with this 8 pack ram. I bought it for plug and forget peice of mind. But I'm fiddling with it just as much as my old incompatible Corsair.

I'm running out of ideas really how to get it 24/7 stable.

Upgrading from a 1700 to a 2700x hasn't really changed the picture. Other than not needing to worry that the CPU is part of the problem.
 
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Full stilts timings here for reference:

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HeX said:
Full stilts timings here for reference:

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Think I've tried the full 3333MHz safe primary and secondary timings already. And was not stable.

Dram calculator is much the same issue. It just doesn't work. Or rather it cannot pass HCI.

Even HCI I've lost confidence in. I got the ram to pass 400% with no errors and it still crashed in games.

I need LLC on CPU to get 80% stability. I.e I can game for a few hours sometimes it will freeze or games crash.

This is why using DOCP I've resorted to adding 1.4v dram and procodt.

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I'll trying again with the safe 3333 timings (primary and secondary)

Auto SOC and dram at 1.4v.

But it won't work.
 
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I have the stilts safe 3333 timings on my 3200 C14 Gskill Ripjaws V, Ryzen 1700, CH6 at 3.7GHz all cores, 1.177V Vcore (auto), 1.13V SOC (auto), 1.4V Ram. No LLC set.
 
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